Optimistic Nut Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, Collage said: Wtf is that According to that the title to Arsenal is pretty much done. They lead by 5 points with half the season left... They still need to go to City as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32 minutes ago, Collage said: Wtf is that According to that the title to Arsenal is pretty much done. They lead by 5 points with half the season left... Game in hand too. Bookies have their odds at 1.20 (or 1/5). It's very much theirs to lose at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Pata said: Game in hand too. Bookies have their odds at 1.20 (or 1/5). It's very much theirs to lose at this point. Fully expect Arsenal to try and throw it away but not so confident in Man City subsequently doing enough to win it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, Pata said: Game in hand too. Bookies have their odds at 1.20 (or 1/5). It's very much theirs to lose at this point. Surprised by those odds. Half the season left, a lot can happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Roy Keane wants him to be next Man Utd manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 19 minutes ago, gdm said: Roy Keane wants him to be next Man Utd manager All Man United fans should want him. They won't get him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 8 hours ago, gdm said: Roy Keane wants him to be next Man Utd manager Always said he's knows his stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Three points off 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 18 hours ago, Lotus said: EH is a fantastic manager of players and obvs a very fastidious coach. However, we do not look like a well coached team atm. I’m not saying we aren’t well coached, but it is not apparent yet pretty much all season apart from over running a couple of teams. I’ve no idea if the style we are trying to implement needs changing or that the players are just not consistently applying EH’s instructions. There was some fluidity to our movement last night when we got in and around the box. That looked good and having Hall and Gordon pop up in unusual positions could be a good way to open teams up. It was apparent though that when we lost the ball that fluidity meant they (and quite a few other ‘lesser’ teams this season) could waltz up the pitch towards our area practically unchallenged. That really, really needs addressing. It is happening so often. WRT fluidity, seems a bit damned if you do, damned if you don’t for us currently. I have a horrible feeling a big issue could be Woltemade. He’s good when he comes deep for the ball but we don’t often put runners in the position he vacated. And if he stays high he’s more or less out of the game without Isak’s ability to nick a goal that didn’t look on for anyone else. Seems like an assist machine though which is awesome. Perhaps this is just a transition season and we have to take what we can from it and look forward to what we could turn into next season. We’ll need some type of European football. By March we should have an idea whether that’s on or not. It's Eddie Howe's second ever attempt at running a league campaign plus a champions league campaign and we've had a long run in the league cup and hopefully a long run in the FA cup. That's a load of games and a load of travel. And he also has international players in our key positions and they disappear to play for their country whenever there's a break in club fixtures. And he's trying to change the ethos of our playing style to give players a better chance of managing the workload. And he's a fastidious coach who needs loads of time with his players on the training pitch, so it's completely at odds with his preferred way of working. So we're definitely not a well coached team at the moment, by Eddie's usual coaching standards. Edited January 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Key to Arsenal being heavy favourites is the competition isn’t that good. I think 82-85 points wins the league for Arsenal. Don’t have to be great to achieve that. Same way we might get into the CL with 60 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: It's Eddie Howe's second ever attempt at running a league campaign plus a champions league campaign and we've had a long run in the league cup and hopefully a long run in the FA cup. That's a load of games and a load of travel. And he also has international players in our key positions and they disappear to play for their country whenever there's a break in club fixtures. And he's trying to change the ethos of our playing style to give players a better chance of managing the workload. And he's a fastidious coach who needs loads of time with his players on the training pitch, so it's completely at odds with his preferred way of working. So we're definitely not a well coached team at the moment, by Eddie's usual coaching standards. Just to add to this before anyone is like "but Guardiola and Arteta manage it" is the simple fact they have better players and squads. Put Howe in charge of Arsenal and suddenly he won't have any issues juggling league and CL. Put Arteta here and watch him struggle with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Cf said: Just to add to this before anyone is like "but Guardiola and Arteta manage it" is the simple fact they have better players and squads. Put Howe in charge of Arsenal and suddenly he won't have any issues juggling league and CL. Put Arteta here and watch him struggle with it. It's also only Howe's 2nd attempt and also most of our players 2nd attempt at balancing the demands of the PL, CL and cup runs plus playing in internationals. That's definitely not the case at Arsenal, City etc. The clubs, coaching staff and players are all used to it, it's the norm for them. Our nearest comparison is Villa, but Emery has more experience than Howe of running domestic and European campaigns simultaneously. Edited January 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 "There are no easy games in the Premier League" used to be an annoying cliche that didn't ring true. It's become a lot more that way this season though. It's not just us struggling to smash 'lesser' teams. We're 21 games in and there have been only 5 wins with goal margins of 4+ all season, across 210 games. That's just 2% of all fixtures, versus 6% across last season (24 4+ margin wins over the 380 games). Draws (26% this season vs 24% last) and 1-goal margin wins (37% vs 36%) are both up slightly. Interestingly 3-goal margin wins are up slightly too (13% vs 11%), suggesting 3-0 is the new 4, 5 or 6-nil. (Used the 'Margin goal' filter on this site for all stats: https://www.fctables.com/england/premier-league/ ) I've heard a lot of people say the league is crap this year, or similar. I disagree, I think it's more competitive. There has been stylistic regression (i.e. Arteta-ball and the whole league starting to copy it), but anyone can beat anyone and most teams are therefore struggling to find consistent form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Quality of the football being played has crashed and burned, but the unpredictability of results has flown so high it could feasibly leave the atmosphere. Edited January 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 14 minutes ago, Interpolic said: "There are no easy games in the Premier League" used to be an annoying cliche that didn't ring true. It's become a lot more that way this season though. It's not just us struggling to smash 'lesser' teams. We're 21 games in and there have been only 5 wins with goal margins of 4+ all season, across 210 games. That's just 2% of all fixtures, versus 6% across last season (24 4+ margin wins over the 380 games). Draws (26% this season vs 24% last) and 1-goal margin wins (37% vs 36%) are both up slightly. Interestingly 3-goal margin wins are up slightly too (13% vs 11%), suggesting 3-0 is the new 4, 5 or 6-nil. (Used the 'Margin goal' filter on this site for all stats: https://www.fctables.com/england/premier-league/ ) I've heard a lot of people say the league is crap this year, or similar. I disagree, I think it's more competitive. There has been stylistic regression (i.e. Arteta-ball and the whole league starting to copy it), but anyone can beat anyone and most teams are therefore struggling to find consistent form. This is exactly how I see it. The amount of money in English football means the talent is more evenly spread, with teams like Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton consistently have some of the top scoring players in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Agreed. How many other league's mid-tables would have a side where PSG & Real Madrid come and pluck their centre-back pairing from for example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 19 hours ago, gdm said: Roy Keane wants him to be next Man Utd manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He would be perfect for them. They can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Feel free to remove Eddie from the picture Sky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: He would be perfect for them. They can fuck off. I think he knows they wouldn't be perfect for him, though. Too much politics and bullshit going on over there at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) How would people feel about Eddie managing another PL team? It's bound to happen eventually as I doubt he'll gan abroad unless it's literally RM or similar. Should add, of course I don't want it to happen and would love for us to push on and succeed with him at the helm. Edited January 9 by Casey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 27 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, Interpolic said: "There are no easy games in the Premier League" used to be an annoying cliche that didn't ring true. It's become a lot more that way this season though. It's not just us struggling to smash 'lesser' teams. We're 21 games in and there have been only 5 wins with goal margins of 4+ all season, across 210 games. That's just 2% of all fixtures, versus 6% across last season (24 4+ margin wins over the 380 games). Draws (26% this season vs 24% last) and 1-goal margin wins (37% vs 36%) are both up slightly. Interestingly 3-goal margin wins are up slightly too (13% vs 11%), suggesting 3-0 is the new 4, 5 or 6-nil. (Used the 'Margin goal' filter on this site for all stats: https://www.fctables.com/england/premier-league/ ) I've heard a lot of people say the league is crap this year, or similar. I disagree, I think it's more competitive. There has been stylistic regression (i.e. Arteta-ball and the whole league starting to copy it), but anyone can beat anyone and most teams are therefore struggling to find consistent form. Good stuff. Also worth having a look at the "away table" this year. After a dip last year home dominance is back in a big way. Twelve teams in the league have three away wins or less, while even the teams who are doing better on the road such as Spurs, Villa and City have only won five of eleven away games. Edited January 9 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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