Kid Icarus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said: You’re mental if you don’t think he’s elite I'll take that assessment from anyone that thinks he is all day. Said it before and I'll keep saying it, this time last year Villa were in a worse position than us in the CL season, and all the people on here who think the sun shines out his arse would have been Emery Out and been banging on about Eddie Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Our Summer transfer window lost us the game today - we just lacked any quality in the final 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 He’s going to have to drastically improve our away form somehow. Or we’ll finish bottom half this season. Not even sure that’s hyperbolic based on some of the away trips we still have and the fixture pile up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: yeah it's been a poor season. And Howe has made some baffling decisions. It was a poor summer after a brilliant last season, and it's fucking disappointing. But some of you were literally on his case back in September. The signs were there in September (though there were mitigating circumstances), we looked mostly poor and bereft of ideas and nothing has got better since, I'd guess more people are seeing it now and I'd agree it would have been insane to be calling for Howe out in September (or even now tbh), but as I've said before, if the season keeps on like this and we don't go super far in some cups to save it, we really need to look at things in the summer. We've just been poor all season and the Champions league is papering over the cracks, but Spurs finished 4th and every English team finished 12th or above, I think other than the elite it's significantly weaker than the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Sir Joel Inton said: Sounds like an irrational emotional ramble to me. What have I not admitted I got wrong? Think you won’t have to look hard (like, 3 days ago). I also disagree about being “constant moaning and negativity”, you can refer to my posts in the Elanga, Ramsey and Wissa threads to find your recent examples there. But if we ignore all of that, you’re absolutely right. whatever, man. This whole site has been chalk full of this type of shit since the days of Rafa. Yeah, maybe you are better than some on here, but that's a hell of a low bar. But I've always associated you as one of the more negative posters for a pretty good reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, The Butcher said: The mentality used to be our biggest strength. Now it's our probably our biggest weakness. What the hell happened? I wonder how much of this is due to who he had in the squad when he joined, and then who signed in the first couple of windows. They were bought buying into a giant of a club about to explode and that would be initially happen through running through brick walls. These players have aged, had miles (and miles) put on the clock. We've bought (on paper) a better level of player after that but possibly not with the same mindset. The message may also be getting stale after four years, I suggested a coach rotation 2 years ago to freshen it up, others are now. That doesn't even have to be JT or Jones, there are others in the coaching team delivering messages on a daily basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 What's concerning we are worse than the 23/24 season in UCL. So we aren't improving at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Big rebuild needed in the summer, will Eddie be the man trusted with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Holmesy said: He will never get us anywhere near a European final because he can’t manage two major competitions simultaneously, and the PL will always be the priority. And he’s spent a hell of a lot of money. dude is only 48. You have no idea how the rest of his career will pan out, based on two CL seasons. This type of prognosticating shit without a decent data set is not particularly enlightened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said: No I don’t think Howe is elite. I was saying emery is elite tactically I probably should read the thread. i have an irrational fear Emery goes to Real, gets sacked and ends up at Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The club and/or Howe need to be ruthless this summer..Willock, Lascelles, Pope, Krafth, Schar and Trippier all to be released or sold..Massive overhaul needed if we want to be number 1 as our Chairman pointed out..No time for sentiment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: 1. His in-game management - He changes systems in game all the time, today for instance we went to a 442, other games we've got to a 5 at the back, sometimes its works sometimes it doesn't. Thats management. 2. His substitutions - Same as above. 3. His rotation of the squad - In the last Five games weve made -4 changes vs Wolves, 1 Change vs PSV, 2 changes vs Villa, 5 Changes vs PSG, 3 changes vs Liverpool 4. The ginormous gap between our defence and midfield that he’s never addressed in four years - Its saved us from near certain relegation, got us into the Champions League twice, won us a cup, and produced some of the best moments in the last 30 years. 5. His influence over some signings (for example, Elanga) - For Example - Bruno, Tonali, Isak, Trippier, Barnes, Gordon, Botman, Burn, Hall, Livramento, Thaiw, Pope 6. His rose tinted glasses for some players and continuing to play them when we have more inform/better players available - This gets thrown around, but other than Gordon this season, who's actually been played into form, I just don't see it. 7. His inability to use a system that works with Woltemade despite huge sum being paid for him - We've not had a single week training since Woltemade signed, that'll probably be a big reason for it. I stand by all my previous comments. He’s great but not elite and we’ll not progress further than this with him. A year in and a year out of the CL, with some good cup runs. That might be good enough for some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Guillaume said: Big rebuild needed in the summer, will Eddie be the man trusted with it? No he shouldn’t it should be the back room to do it, not Howe let him focus on managing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I'll take that assessment from anyone that thinks he is all day. Said it before and I'll keep saying it, this time last year Villa were in a worse position than us in the CL season, and all the people on here who think the sun shines out his arse would have been Emery Out and been banging on about Eddie Howe. That was the first CL season for Villa, it's a valid comparison if they struggle next year to the same degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 For the record, I think our PL form will pick up now we’re out of Europe. But that in itself will highlight a key limitation of Eddie’s management style. He needs to evolve significantly, and I think he needs to improve his coaching staff significantly as well - defensive, set pieces and possibly tactical (which he almost certainly won’t). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Guillaume said: Big rebuild needed in the summer, will Eddie be the man trusted with it? I think the lack of players coming suggests the club have other ideas. We're desperate for something to spark our season. Fixture list from hell. Injury list getting bigger, and no one is coming in to help. For me, suggests major changes in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Colos Short and Curlies said: That was the first CL season for Villa, it's a valid comparison if they struggle next year to the same degree. It's a valid comparison regardless I think. We struggled in our first CL season too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, Aiston said: Just don't understand the timing of his subs. Make the subs when 2-1 down instead of waiting and reacting to going 3-1 down making it incredibly hard for any subs to do anything, especially when Liverpool could just play counter. I suppose you would if you knew you would go 3-1 down rather than equalise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 26 minutes ago, Mikky said: He’s been here 4 years - for me that’s the max length of any project before you move on Ferguson, Wenger, Guardiola and Klopp some great examples of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: For the record, I think our PL form will pick up now we’re out of Europe. But that in itself will highlight a key limitation of Eddie’s management style. He needs to evolve significantly, and I think he needs to improve his coaching staff significantly as well - defensive, set pieces and possibly tactical (which he almost certainly won’t). Out of Europe? We aren't. Or just being super negative Edited January 31 by dcmk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, Holmesy said: He will never get us anywhere near a European final because he can’t manage two major competitions simultaneously, and the PL will always be the priority. And he’s spent a hell of a lot of money. Agreed. If be can't do in his second ever attempt with the 8th biggest wage bill in the league, he never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: For the record, I think our PL form will pick up now we’re out of Europe. But that in itself will highlight a key limitation of Eddie’s management style. He needs to evolve significantly, and I think he needs to improve his coaching staff significantly as well - defensive, set pieces and possibly tactical (which he almost certainly won’t). When we're we out of Europe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Guillaume said: Big rebuild needed in the summer, will Eddie be the man trusted with it? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, johnny36 said: The club and/or Howe need to be ruthless this summer..Willock, Lascelles, Pope, Krafth, Schar and Trippier all to be released or sold..Massive overhaul needed if we want to be number 1 as our Chairman pointed out..No time for sentiment Absolutely this. We need to sign players that will come in and improve us as well. The way Bruno did when he came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I think there's valid criticism of Howe that some people on here won't hear, and some people (myself included sometimes) massively overplay. I just don't think losing at Anfield where we were decent for some of it is the time to pile into him, it happens every year regardless of circumstance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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