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2 minutes ago, nufcnick said:

Newcastle are going to have to do something that’s never been done in the history of the Premier League, stay in the Premier League after not winning in the first 11 games, that’s some ask from Howe 

Aye but how many of them teams had 200 million in the bank (or whatever it is)?

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1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Saw a decent post on Twitter saying if he was a young German coach who’d taken them up the leagues into the Bundesliga and kept them in the league for 5 years while playing his brand of football then everyone would want him.

Aye. I know comments like that are often derided but it's absolutely spot on tbf. 

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We've got the tools to be vaguely difficult to beat and snatch the odd win. How many teams actually play 'free-flowing attacking football' anyway? What does it even mean; a team dominates possession and keeps their opponents camped in their own half for the majority of games? Cos only the very best teams are capable of playing like that every week; there's only Man City and Liverpool who I'd back to routinely pummel teams 4+ nil. In any case, an all out attacking team can't be an effective one without a solid structure and good defenders to reduce the vulnerability of being beaten on the break.

 

If you're talking about 'free-flowing attacking football' in the context of anyone other than the very top teams, you're basically just waffling in clichés. The term just simply doesn't apply. 

 

If Eddie Howe can organise a team and can ensure that the majority of players perform at something like their potential, he'll do absolutely fine. 

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

We've got the tools to be vaguely difficult to beat and snatch the odd win. How many teams actually play 'free-flowing attacking football' anyway? What does it even mean; a team dominates possession and keeps their opponents camped in their own half for the majority of games? Cos only the very best teams are capable of playing like that every week; there's only Man City and Liverpool who I'd back to routinely pummel teams 4+ nil. In any case, an all out attacking team can't be an effective one without a solid structure and good defenders to reduce the vulnerability of being beaten on the break.

 

If you're talking about 'free-flowing attacking football' about anyone other than the very top teams, you're basically just waffling in clichés. The term simply just doesn't apply. 

 

If Eddie Howe can organise a team and can ensure that the majority of players perform at something like their potential, he'll do absolutely fine. 

Just a little bit of ball retention would be nice :indi:not really asking for much are we

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Just now, ManDoon said:

It’s not. The guy said if his name was “eudardo howardinho” or something asinine. It’s the same thing that gets said every time there is a tiny bit of criticism of an English manager. If that’s applies why does no one want Nigel Adkins? Took Saints to the PL in back to back seasons from league 1 and then got sacked. 

It's 100% true though, unlike this country people in the continent actually give up and coming managers a chance.

 

Out of interest, is there a reason you seem really negative about everything ATM?

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You could argue that we do have the players to be an attacking team and so maybe an experiment with Howe wouldn't be a bad thing.

 

Wilson, ASM, Almiron, Willock (played right, when fit), all have pace enough to scare most opponents, but only if they get the ball in the right areas.

 

It's just that we punt it high to them in the wrong areas, as our selected defenders in the last couple of games just can't pass, so we're constantly under the cosh when dropping deep as the ball comes straight back.

 

Drop Darlow for Dubravka, and suddenly you have a keeper with distribution, for one thing.

 

Swap Clark for Fernandez, and there's a more intelligent upgrade in the centre of defence.

 

Maybe put Schar in ahead of them as DM, and then you have someone who can tackle and pass out from defence onto some willing runners, like the front 3 / 4 above. And that's before we even get onto playing your actual full backs instead of slotting square pegs into round holes using midfielders.

 

Maybe I'm dreaming with all that, or that it would take too long to coach a different style of play. All I do know is the current sit back approach isn't working and only invites pressure onto an inadequate defence, so why not try and turn the tables and ask a few questions of the opposition for a change?

 

If Howe is the man for that and it works, great. If not and we're relegated, then hopefully we come back playing with an actual blueprint and also with the time to get the right players in who can implement it.

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4 minutes ago, Abacus said:

You could argue that we do have the players to be an attacking team and so maybe an experiment with Howe wouldn't be a bad thing.

 

Wilson, ASM, Almiron, Willock (played right, when fit), all have pace enough to scare most opponents, but only if they get the ball in the right areas.

 

It's just that we punt it high to them in the wrong areas, as our selected defenders in the last couple of games just can't pass, so we're constantly under the cosh when dropping deep as the ball comes straight back.

 

Drop Darlow for Dubravka, and suddenly you have a keeper with distribution, for one thing.

 

Swap Clark for Fernandez, and there's a more intelligent upgrade in the centre of defence.

 

Maybe put Schar in ahead of them as DM, and then you have someone who can tackle and pass out from defence onto some willing runners, like the front 3 / 4 above. And that's before we even get onto playing your actual full backs instead of slotting square pegs into round holes using midfielders.

 

Maybe I'm dreaming with all that, or that it would take too long to coach a different style of play. All I do know is the current sit back approach isn't working and only invites pressure onto an inadequate defence, so why not try and turn the tables and ask a few questions of the opposition for a change?

 

If Howe is the man for that and it works, great. If not and we're relegated, then hopefully we come back playing with an actual blueprint and also with the time to get the right players in who can implement it.

 

Fraser was also a key plyer for Howe when Bournemouth were doing well.

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Howe was not my first choice, not even close, but now I just want him in, because we need someone to steady the ship quickly.

 

He might surprise us all and this could be his big chance, it makes him more motivated than someone like Conte, Mourinho - or even Emery. Having said that, he is not the manager to take us to next level, but he will hopefully be here helping us get there. And who knows if he can grow with us.

 

We need manager ASAP.

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2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Problem lies in our midfield, until Jan we can’t fix it.. 

I do agree. Maybe we could push someone like Haydn slightly further forward, but that would be a stop gap.

 

I do think there are a few obvious things we could do if we wanted to improve things, but everyone is an expert, and I've derailed things by talking football now so I'll stop [emoji38]

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2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Played 4-4-2 didn’t he?


I can’t really remember. Anything away from 5 at the back and I’ll be happy.

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17 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

That’s the issue though, I really rated Howe , up until that form they went into . It was like he couldn’t even change remotely from this crazy attacking football to just try and get points. You can argue he might have learned his lessson but rightly or wrongly he’s a philosophy manager and he won’t stray from that imo.

 

if anyone goes back to this very board to the comments on them during that run, they were mind bendingly poor 

 

Interestingly, reading up on it it looks like Howe did change his tactics in that final season in the league. Even before they were in trouble he'd tried to make them into a more defensive counter attacking side and it was the loss of attacking threat that ultimately cost them. 

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