BGRM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Newcastle are going to have to do something that’s never been done in the history of the Premier League, stay in the Premier League after not winning in the first 11 games, that’s some ask from Howe Aye but how many of them teams had 200 million in the bank (or whatever it is)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Saw a decent post on Twitter saying if he was a young German coach who’d taken them up the leagues into the Bundesliga and kept them in the league for 5 years while playing his brand of football then everyone would want him. Aye. I know comments like that are often derided but it's absolutely spot on tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 We've got the tools to be vaguely difficult to beat and snatch the odd win. How many teams actually play 'free-flowing attacking football' anyway? What does it even mean; a team dominates possession and keeps their opponents camped in their own half for the majority of games? Cos only the very best teams are capable of playing like that every week; there's only Man City and Liverpool who I'd back to routinely pummel teams 4+ nil. In any case, an all out attacking team can't be an effective one without a solid structure and good defenders to reduce the vulnerability of being beaten on the break. If you're talking about 'free-flowing attacking football' in the context of anyone other than the very top teams, you're basically just waffling in clichés. The term just simply doesn't apply. If Eddie Howe can organise a team and can ensure that the majority of players perform at something like their potential, he'll do absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Beth said: Its fair to say this new lot have made the preverbial howling cunt of things since they took over. youre a bit of a weapon mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Ren Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: We've got the tools to be vaguely difficult to beat and snatch the odd win. How many teams actually play 'free-flowing attacking football' anyway? What does it even mean; a team dominates possession and keeps their opponents camped in their own half for the majority of games? Cos only the very best teams are capable of playing like that every week; there's only Man City and Liverpool who I'd back to routinely pummel teams 4+ nil. In any case, an all out attacking team can't be an effective one without a solid structure and good defenders to reduce the vulnerability of being beaten on the break. If you're talking about 'free-flowing attacking football' about anyone other than the very top teams, you're basically just waffling in clichés. The term simply just doesn't apply. If Eddie Howe can organise a team and can ensure that the majority of players perform at something like their potential, he'll do absolutely fine. Just a little bit of ball retention would be nice not really asking for much are we Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I get what they're saying though. A number of fans are fawning over Fonseca despite having very little knowledge about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: It’s not. The guy said if his name was “eudardo howardinho” or something asinine. It’s the same thing that gets said every time there is a tiny bit of criticism of an English manager. If that’s applies why does no one want Nigel Adkins? Took Saints to the PL in back to back seasons from league 1 and then got sacked. It's 100% true though, unlike this country people in the continent actually give up and coming managers a chance. Out of interest, is there a reason you seem really negative about everything ATM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rocker said: No, I'd love it but it's definitely Howe. I'll back that fucker ?. Bring it on. I am ready for seige mentality if he is hired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 You could argue that we do have the players to be an attacking team and so maybe an experiment with Howe wouldn't be a bad thing. Wilson, ASM, Almiron, Willock (played right, when fit), all have pace enough to scare most opponents, but only if they get the ball in the right areas. It's just that we punt it high to them in the wrong areas, as our selected defenders in the last couple of games just can't pass, so we're constantly under the cosh when dropping deep as the ball comes straight back. Drop Darlow for Dubravka, and suddenly you have a keeper with distribution, for one thing. Swap Clark for Fernandez, and there's a more intelligent upgrade in the centre of defence. Maybe put Schar in ahead of them as DM, and then you have someone who can tackle and pass out from defence onto some willing runners, like the front 3 / 4 above. And that's before we even get onto playing your actual full backs instead of slotting square pegs into round holes using midfielders. Maybe I'm dreaming with all that, or that it would take too long to coach a different style of play. All I do know is the current sit back approach isn't working and only invites pressure onto an inadequate defence, so why not try and turn the tables and ask a few questions of the opposition for a change? If Howe is the man for that and it works, great. If not and we're relegated, then hopefully we come back playing with an actual blueprint and also with the time to get the right players in who can implement it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 This cunt been hired yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ben said: I'm on board with Howe now. You let him know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Happinesstan said: This cunt been hired yet? Tomorrow I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The more I think about Howe the more exciting I think this could be. I've always rated him and I love his style of play. Genuinely think he could shock a few fans and make a big impression here. Hope he gets the job now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Abacus said: You could argue that we do have the players to be an attacking team and so maybe an experiment with Howe wouldn't be a bad thing. Wilson, ASM, Almiron, Willock (played right, when fit), all have pace enough to scare most opponents, but only if they get the ball in the right areas. It's just that we punt it high to them in the wrong areas, as our selected defenders in the last couple of games just can't pass, so we're constantly under the cosh when dropping deep as the ball comes straight back. Drop Darlow for Dubravka, and suddenly you have a keeper with distribution, for one thing. Swap Clark for Fernandez, and there's a more intelligent upgrade in the centre of defence. Maybe put Schar in ahead of them as DM, and then you have someone who can tackle and pass out from defence onto some willing runners, like the front 3 / 4 above. And that's before we even get onto playing your actual full backs instead of slotting square pegs into round holes using midfielders. Maybe I'm dreaming with all that, or that it would take too long to coach a different style of play. All I do know is the current sit back approach isn't working and only invites pressure onto an inadequate defence, so why not try and turn the tables and ask a few questions of the opposition for a change? If Howe is the man for that and it works, great. If not and we're relegated, then hopefully we come back playing with an actual blueprint and also with the time to get the right players in who can implement it. Fraser was also a key plyer for Howe when Bournemouth were doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 fucking love Eddie , looks lush , im on board 100% and right behind him . fuck off if you arent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 What’s his preferred formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Howe was not my first choice, not even close, but now I just want him in, because we need someone to steady the ship quickly. He might surprise us all and this could be his big chance, it makes him more motivated than someone like Conte, Mourinho - or even Emery. Having said that, he is not the manager to take us to next level, but he will hopefully be here helping us get there. And who knows if he can grow with us. We need manager ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'd be very happy with Howe! Come on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, 54 said: It's 100% true though, unlike this country people in the continent actually give up and coming managers a chance. Out of interest, is there a reason you seem really negative about everything ATM? Yeast infection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Problem lies in our midfield, until Jan we can’t fix it.. I do agree. Maybe we could push someone like Haydn slightly further forward, but that would be a stop gap. I do think there are a few obvious things we could do if we wanted to improve things, but everyone is an expert, and I've derailed things by talking football now so I'll stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Played 4-4-2 didn’t he? I can’t really remember. Anything away from 5 at the back and I’ll be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I think Howe loves a diamond 4-4-2 with a bit of a flirtation with a 5-3-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Fred Dinenage knew all along. The real ITK amongst all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, ManDoon said: That’s the issue though, I really rated Howe , up until that form they went into . It was like he couldn’t even change remotely from this crazy attacking football to just try and get points. You can argue he might have learned his lessson but rightly or wrongly he’s a philosophy manager and he won’t stray from that imo. if anyone goes back to this very board to the comments on them during that run, they were mind bendingly poor Interestingly, reading up on it it looks like Howe did change his tactics in that final season in the league. Even before they were in trouble he'd tried to make them into a more defensive counter attacking side and it was the loss of attacking threat that ultimately cost them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 the 442 talk is making my balls ascend into my gut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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