Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I mean he has to change things after today, aye? We're not playing with Willock and Shelvey in the centre next game, are we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He needs to bring Hayden in ASAP. He’s no world beater but at least he tries. He has to bring some legs. Willock and Shelvey nothing short of disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Two games against teams coming off poor results in Leicester and Arsenal and we've barely laid a glove on either Closest we've come is their defender nearly putting it into his own net from 30 yards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Bonked I really like the guy personally and he says all the right things. He speaks so well, I want it to work out for him and us so much but It feels like not much has changed and we're heading into the abyss. We desperately needed the defense sorted out and that's not happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I mean he has to change things after today, aye? We're not playing with Willock and Shelvey in the centre next game, are we? It's Liverpool away so you'd expect a back five. Ritchie and Fraser back in as wing backs I imagine. Wouldn't surprise me if Willock and Shelvey remain as the midfield two though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Questions will be asked of him if he persists with this shambolic midfield pairing of shelvey and willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Hell of a job he's doing so far, keep it up Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He'd have better prospects if he was a chef tbh. Could turn out some nice chicken soup with the ingredients in this squad, or with the size of their hearts, maybe pea soup would be a nice starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He needs to drop Lascelles and then replace him in January. He is a complete liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Menace said: I wasn't sold on the idea of him getting the job, still ain't. 5 games in, I think the only player that has looked better under him is Joelinton. Defensively I could argue we look even worse than before. We're not staying up with this guy at the helm. My sentiments exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ben said: Better players in Howes team will win games He’s got to get something with what he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Pilko said: Needs to be bold now and drop some of these wankers who are costing us. He did it with Ritchie, now must do it again. Lascelles, St Maximin and Willock need sitting down immediately. Who the fuck is going to create anything if you're not playing ASM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Dropping ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: He’s got to get something with what he has. He's not going to implement the high press with these players. Either try different personnel or go back to parking the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pilko said: Hell of a job he's doing so far, keep it up Eddie. I mean that's a bit of a stupid way of looking at it after such a short time. We were in an absolutely dreadful state when he took over and it's a massive job to get this lot going. He's made some poor decisions so far but we've also seen the odd improvement and actually won a game, which we hadn't done in the dozen games before he was at the wheel. I'm not saying he can't be criticised; of course he can. But I think he probably deserves more than five games before we're making conclusions, particularly given the utter state we were in when he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Wonder if Rafa fancies another spin the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: He’s got to get something with what he has. Doubt many can, the improvement around us and our degradation (from what was always mostly crap anyway) is the biggest issue here. Defensively we just are not PL quality at all and this is even with Schar and Fernandes playing. It's like going from worst to third worst at best and hoping things turn in our favour. I still think its too early days for anyone to write him off but the notion of getting the most out of the squads can only go so far when your back players are the worst in the league. Edited December 12, 2021 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I still think that he’ll get it right. Today is the first game everything went wrong. We had too many poor performances today. The usual suspects (Shelvey, Willock and Lascelles) as well as some of the perceived better players (Schar, Manquillo, Miggy). The pen was a sucker punch in all its glory, the 2-0 came against the run of play and after that it all fell apart. I’m concerned about the league position of course, but I’m not concerned about Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Minhosa said: Wonder if Rafa fancies another spin the championship Not actually that unlikely as a turn of events. Good chance he gets let go at the end of the season by Everton and we might be in the market for a new manager too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) I said in the match thread, but people where praising the team sheet before the game, and I personally think it was our best 11, the squad all over just lacks quality, and thats just the sad state of things at the moment. Centre mid needs changing, but our options are so limited its ridiculous. Today was pretty shambolic, but people saying there have been no positives since he came in is very hyperbolic, since he came in, at the very least Howe has got the players working for each other, had a plan in every game, and had them fighting. In each of the last 4 games there have been positives, against Brentford we attacked really well, and should have won, against Arsenal defended well for the most part, outdone by quality, against Norwich the players showed unbeleivable fight for 80 minutes and got a valiant draw, and obviously we beat Burnley. Today was a mess, but lets not kid ourselves, these sorts of results are going to happen as the players are just Championship at best, and until recently where being trained like they where in the National League, thats not a recipe for success. Also I very much doubt Rafa would have had better results. Edited December 12, 2021 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Whose dick does Fernandez have to suck to get a chance btw? Any word on him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, buzz said: Not actually that unlikely as a turn of events. Good chance he gets let go at the end of the season by Everton and we might be in the market for a new manager too I’ve said it all season, he’d keep us up from here imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 My main concern with appointing him was his Bournemouth’s sides awful defensive record. Put that together with our defence and it’s a huge concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 So much that hasn't made much sense. Clark playing and Fernandez in the cold, Ritchie until he was suspended, willock with Shelvey, ASM predominantly in a role that doesn't get the best out of him. At a minimum Lascelles and Willock have to he dropped. I'd be shocked if they were. Manquillo should be the right choice at RB but he has been fucking woeful. He is still probably the best bet though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The team was getting relegated before he arrived and nothing has changed so far. At least give him till the end of the season before judging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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