The Bonk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeah, I really like Howe, and think long term he is the answer. I just personally think that he's making a mistake by persisting with this midfield two, and I personally think we will go down. If we cant turn up in a crucial game, where a team has a CM in CB, and is knackered from midweek, has been shipping goals all over the shop, that is extremely worrying to me. I'm a fan ffs, of course im emotional during a game. In Howe's defence, it's not like the other players at his disposal are any better. I agree with going down, we look that way. I'd be all for outspending our relegation rivals in January, but I'm not convinced it's even worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Aye, disgusting post that. Really vile tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) My over riding feeling today is that whilst the scoreline is massively deflating, it was someone flattering to Leicester and actually, a defeat isn't that much of a shock, is it? Collectively, understandably, tails were up and there seemed to be a feeling of opportunism after the Europe League and unfit players in the opposition camp, etc. But realistically, I suspect most neutrals would have expected a Leicester win today. I've read through multiple WhatsApp groups and all this "We're down" stuff I cannot really grasp to be honest. Perhaps that's my naivety but for all people say "look at history no other team has stayed up in this position" etc. They're just the stats you choose to follow. We're still 1 win (1 win!) away from safety and have to play 17th at home still. We have a transfer window where we can spend a fortune and we have renewed hope and everyone pulling in the same direction. It'd be absolutely criminal for any element of our club to resign themselves to defeat right now. Today, we played well up until the second goal. The first was never, ever a penalty. Yet, after that we had to open up to get a goal back. In doing so, we were picked apart by a talented Leicester side and one fantastic pass in particular. A lesson to be learned for Howe at 2-0, and after that blunder was cleared, it was perhaps time to say, "okay enough is enough" for today, but in chasing the game the defecit was doubled. We simply aren't good enough at present to go at teams beyond around 8th place. It's interesting tbh, days like today are good examples of why fans saying "I'd rather we went for it and lost 4-0 than sit back and lose 2" or whom criticised the Benitez approach after his departure, are (in my opinion) wrong. There's more than one way to skin a cat and there's times and places to do it. This is no real dig at Howe, only an observation that maybe he needs to learn from today. I'm absolutely convinced we'll still do this to be honest. That pen doesn't happen, that drubbing doesn't happen. We've got this. Edited December 12, 2021 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Amazing post, @KaKa and couldn't agree more. Those 3 players are class and could easily undo our leaky defence at a stroll (as we saw). I should blame myself for building up hope we'd build on our only win. If we do go down, I think Willock would be a player who could benefit from a season down there. I'm not ready to completely write him off, but on current form, nothing warrants him being in the starting 11. With all the fuss about them missing a bunch of players, I couldn't believe their team sheet when it came out. Those three are their best creative players and they were all available, and Daka's pace and movement is a headache in behind too, not too dissimilar from Vardy. Very bad day but a chance to learn some vital lessons. The win against Burnley was incredibly big. The table still looks so much better. Lots of teams in the mix now that really aren't too far away from us. This whole thing is far from over. A couple of key signings in midfield and defence could improve us so much, and I don't even think they have to be world beaters either. Just really unfortunate that we are missing such a key piece in the most important of positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Leicester are good, we’re shit. On to next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 worst performace since howe joined. not his fault like. willock lewis and schar poor and the others not much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Feel sad for myself, and all you guys too. It's going to be a shit month, guess we were all on a high from the first win. The players looked lost today sadly. Liverpool, City,and Man U, awful times ahead ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Says the happy clapper, we lost 4-0. Ironic you accuse me of acting like a 12 year old when you lack basic reading comprehension. Had a drink again? Anyway ignore list. Leave it at that I can’t stand it when people tell you how you should react through the heat of 90 minutes of football. Football is supposed to get the emotions flowing, it’s what makes it what it is. We have had 14 years of pure apathy, we as fans can and should be able to vent through 90 minutes without some clueless whopper telling people they are knee jerking. He clearly hasn’t got a clue about actually following a football match. Imagine just sitting though it all with a gormless smile on your face. Absolute whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Don Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I don't think whoever comes in the January window will make much difference, due to bedding in. In this position at this time for whoever, nearly always ends up relegation I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: Feel sad for myself, and all you guys too. It's going to be a shit month, guess we were all on a high from the first win. The players looked lost today sadly. Liverpool, City,and Man U, awful times ahead ? Our GD is going to take a negative double figures nose dive after those games too. December is going to be miserable to be an NUFC supporter. We can only hope we're still only a couple of wins from safety and not taken an absolute hammering in the moral department by the time we get to winnable games and new recruits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeah, I really like Howe, and think long term he is the answer. I just personally think that he's making a mistake by persisting with this midfield two, and I personally think we will go down. If we cant turn up in a crucial game, where a team has a CM in CB, and is knackered from midweek, has been shipping goals all over the shop, that is extremely worrying to me. I'm a fan ffs, of course im emotional during a game. Completely understandable. However I will say that Ndidi has had to drop into central defence for them before on more than one occassion and he is very good at it. He is a class player. Unfortunately for us Soumare then stepping into midfield is another that is very good on the ball and uses it very well too. Ironically it might have made things more difficult for us defensively in the end. For me personally once I saw Ndidi, Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes where in the team my heart sank. Thought they would be playing the likes of Choudhury and Albrighton today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Mattoon said: Our GD is going to take a negative double figures nose dive after those games too. December is going to be miserable to be an NUFC supporter. We can only hope we're still only a couple of wins from safety and not taken an absolute hammering in the moral department by the time we get to winnable games and new recruits. For me, it's upto the fans to keep the players' heads up into January. They did that very well today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, reefatoon said: I can’t stand it when people tell you how you should react through the heat of 90 minutes of football. Football is supposed to get the emotions flowing, it’s what makes it what it is. We have had 14 years of pure apathy, we as fans can and should be able to vent through 90 minutes without some clueless whopper telling people they are knee jerking. He clearly hasn’t got a clue about actually following a football match. Imagine just sitting though it all with a gormless smile on your face. Absolute whopper. Clueless whopper. No need really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Completely understandable. However I will say that Ndidi has had to drop into central defence for them before on more than one occassion and he is very good at it. He is a class player. Unfortunately for us Soumare then stepping into midfield is another that is very good on the ball and uses it very well too. Ironically it might have made things more difficult for us defensively in the end. For me personally once I saw Ndidi, Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes where in the team my heart sank. Thought they would be playing the likes of Choudhury and Albrighton today. I was gutted when Evans went off tbh, they looked awful until Ndidi dropped back there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Nee need to get personal folk. Howay. Shite day at the office. We go again in the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TRon said: I was gutted when Evans went off tbh, they looked awful until Ndidi dropped back there. Yeah, Evans is decent but he's the sort that Wilson can get rattled with his pace and persistence, which is actually what caused him to blow a hamstring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Well that's what I get for having a tiny bit of optimism. Glad I missed this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Im worried about who we can attract in Jan now. This is the most important Jan window for a long time, we might have to go championship/norwich It's a concern for sure. Think we'll have to end up looking at the top players in the Championship or in the lesser leagues in Europe, like Belgium, Switzerland and the Netherlands. Maybe some of the better players in the mid table French clubs too. There'll be players out there. The recruitment team are going to have to put in some serious hours over the Christmas period to figure it out. We need players that are hungry for a shot at the Premier League and want to prove themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, KaKa said: It's a concern for sure. Think we'll have to end up looking at the top players in the Championship or in the lesser leagues in Europe, like Belgium, Switzerland and the Netherlands. Maybe some of the better players in the mid table French clubs too. There'll be players out there. The recruitment team are going to have to put in some serious hours over the Christmas period to figure it out. We need players that are hungry for a shot at the Premier League and want to prove themselves. We don’t even have a recruitment team do we ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Im worried about who we can attract in Jan now. This is the most important Jan window for a long time, we might have to go championship/norwich It will and will always be loans , players not getting a game . who was expecting anything else? Difference is we are prepared to pay a fee and the wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Clueless whopper. No need really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, KaKa said: Thing is if we are going to work on changing the way we play we are going to have to expect some days like this against better teams. Yes Leicester have been struggling, but once I saw Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes were in there I thought his could be a possibility. I think the manager will learn a lot from games like this, and he'll just have to figure out how to set the team up to be better using the ball with the players we currently have. We could have come in today and just sat in Bruce style, but then we likely would have lost by what 2 instead of 4? But then what do you really learn from that? Painful day, but lets see what changes are made in the team going forward now. If it means no more Willock in central midfield I will gladly take that,, because that is the huge issue right now. Think this is worth quoting again. I think people forgot how good Leicester can be and although they had a bit of help from decisions and us they capitalised. We are going to have to get some unexpected points if we’re going to survive at some point though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We don’t even have a recruitment team do we ? Of course we do man Steve Nickson heads it up I believe, and the new owners have since returned all the staff since they've come in as I believe Ashley still had some of them furloughed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Tinpot cunts Leicester like. Say what you want about the big six but it's a travesty that those happy clapping fucks won the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Of course we do man Steve Nickson heads it up I believe, and the new owners have since returned all the staff since they've come in as I believe Ashley still had some of them furloughed I know Nickson is there, genuinely have no idea who else forms part of it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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