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11 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Graeme Bailey has mentioned on the 90 mins podcast that we have some interest in PSV's Noni Madueke. Formerly of Tottenham, left footed right winger. Only 20 years old, but left as a youngster to get more game time.

 

Tottenham seem to have jettisoned a number of really talented wingers from their academy. Marcus Edwards at Sporting Lisbon is another left footed right wing player that had a really good season last year, not sure we are looking at him though.

 

Noni Madueke at PSV last year.

 

 


Looks right up our street for potential cost.

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31 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Pope, Dubravka, Darlow

 

Trippier, Krafth

Botman, Schar, Burn, Lascelles

Targett, Lewis, Dummett

 

Bruno, Joelinton, Shelvey, Willock, Longstaff

ASM, Fraser, Almiron, Murphy

 

Wilson, Wood

 

 

That's 23 with your lot jettisoned, so only leaves two gaps. Suggests to me that one of the wingers needs to go too; ideally Murphy for me.

 

Worth noting that the likes of Ekitike or Sucic for example wouldn't need to be registered in the squad.

 

Edit: and Madueke above

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Joey47 said:

 

This guy looks class, going off their highlight videos alone he looks better than Ektike.

 

Had never heard of this Zerkze kid tbh but looks very agile and silky for his size. Seems to have really good vision for a striker as well. I feel like his dynamic movement would really combine well with Maxi and Bruno. 

 

Is he a straight up centre forward or can he play on the wing as well?

 

 

 

 

 

He's a straight up centre forward that can also play in a two striker setup as a second support striker. Doesn't play as winger.

 

As far as adjusting to the Premier League and making more of a contribution right away, I'd be a lot more confident in him coming in, the guy is a powerfully built 6 foot 4.

 

Just seen that Stuttgart and Ajax are in for him, and the latest price mentioned that Bayern are after is 15 million Euros due to his contract running down. Incredible value.

 

I'd be most concerned about Ajax as they could offer him first team play as a replacement for Haller right away. He is really adamant on getting regular playing time next season, and so we'd have to convince him of that. Big Sven could maybe have a word also as his team mate for the Dutch under 21 team.

 

 

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Interesting how Zirkzee develops, was always touted as a huge talent at Bayern II and looked to be breaking through around COVID but seemingly stagnated a bit until this loan spell. I'd still prefer Ekitike's versatility of the two, Zirkzee seems more like a pure poacher. 

 

Madueke and M. Edwards are very Ben Arfa-like. Edwards is very small and more of a central player iirc, not sure he's suitable for the Premier League but Madueke looks very promising. 

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7 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

He's a straight up centre forward that can also play in a two striker setup as a second support striker. Doesn't plat as winger.

 

As far as adjusting to the Premier League and making more of a contribution right away, I'd be a lot more confident in him coming in, the guy is a powerfully built 6 foot 4.

 

Just seen that Stuttgart and Ajax are in for him, and the latest price mentioned that Bayern are after is 15 million Euros due to his contract running down. Incredible value.

 

I'd be most concerned about Ajax as they could offer him first team play as a replacement for Haller right away. He is really adamant on getting regular playing time next season, and so we'd have to convince him of that. Big Sven could maybe have a word also as his team mate for the Dutch under 21 team.

 

I mean if he's really all that, then we could pitch him in ahead of Wilson and see how he does. If he does well and Wilson subsequently wants a move then why not?

 

 

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Loving Kaka’s posts about African players or players of African heritage as I haven’t a clue about most players outside of the PL these days and even then I couldn’t tell you anything about many that play here. Keep ‘em coming Kaka!

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34 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Ah, the big Dutch Nigerian. I wondered if we might consider him as an alternative to Ekitike, as he is another young emerging striker that scored a lot of goals last season. Looking at his highlights from last season, I like him a lot more physically, compared to Ekitike, as he is really powerful, and should have no issues adjusting to the Premier League.

 

I would have a lot more confidence in him getting in ahead of Chris Wood in the pecking order too, as he looks to be very good at dropping into space and linking play, he looks very technical, lots of lovely touches and passes, and then gets in the box and finds space to score.

 

His contract is going into the final year, as it expires in 2023, and he is not keen on signing on at Bayern, as he didn't get the playing time there, and after last season he really wants to play. If he is to join Newcastle, he will definitely need guarantees on playing time, which would also bode well as far as him getting more game time ahead of Wood.

 

Highlights from last year at Anderlecht.

 

 

 

Wants… he looks like he’s a genuine CF, but who can come deep. Looks really talented.

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7 minutes ago, junkhead said:

Interesting how Zirkzee develops, was always touted as a huge talent at Bayern II and looked to be breaking through around COVID but seemingly stagnated a bit until this loan spell. I'd still prefer Ekitike's versatility of the two, Zirkzee seems more like a pure poacher. 

 

Madueke and M. Edwards are very Ben Arfa-like. Edwards is very small and more of a central player iirc, not sure he's suitable for the Premier League but Madueke looks very promising. 

 

Wouldn't say Zirkzee was a pure poacher, as he does a lot of great work in build up play, and sets up a lot of goals too. However, I get what you mean from a versatility standpoint as you wouldn't put him out on the left like you could with Ekitike. I'd personally lean more towards Zirkzee though, as I really want a striker outside of Wilson that can link play, because he is likely to miss time, and Wood's general play is poor. Think Zirkzee has the physicality to do that right away in the Premier League, while I'm not so sure how Ekitike adjusts due to his slight frame.

 

Regarding Madueke and Edwards, I think you're right on Edwards, he is really small. Madueke is a lot more of a physical specimen on the wing.

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5 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Loving Kaka’s posts about African players or players of African heritage as I haven’t a clue about most players outside of the PL these days and even then I couldn’t tell you anything about many that play here. Keep ‘em coming Kaka!

 

Cheers! Always keep an eye out for young talents with a Nigerian background in particular, as potential prospects for the Super Eagles in the future :D

 

Think Zirkzee and Madueke will likely feature for the Netherlands and England, rather than Nigeria, if they continue on their current trajectories. Still will follow them closely and root for them though. They both look very promising.

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

Cheers! Always keep an eye out for young talents with a Nigerian background in particular, as potential prospects for the Super Eagles in the future :D

 

Think Zirkzee and Madueke will likely feature for the Netherlands and England, rather than Nigeria, if they continue on their current trajectories. Still will follow them closely and root for them though. They both look very promising.

Love it, Nigeria were my team at USA ‘94 along with Bulgaria and Romania, I’d love it if an African team won the WC some day, the talent coming out of there or through African heritage is on the levels of South America IMO. I’ve seen street football in Africa (Kenya, Tunisia) and it’s basically African Samba footy, unbelievable skills and technical abilities. 

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One who has recently come to light to be somewhat available is Gnabry. Now obviously he's used to playing at the highest level with Bayern, but... he's kind of surplus to requirement now and he doesn't want to sign an extension. The likes of arsenal and Man utd are interested. Both can't give him CL football. Wages aren't massive either. Could he be persuaded like Bruno was? 

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12 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I mean if he's really all that, then we could pitch him in ahead of Wilson and see how he does. If he does well and Wilson subsequently wants a move then why not?

 

 

 

I wouldn't start him ahead of Wilson right away as I don't think that would go down too well! But I think we should rotate Wilson more next season to try and manage him physically, and so you'd hope there'd still be a lot opportunities for game time. He could also play just off Wilson at times too, in a partnership. The 5 subs next season will also help a lot with getting a lot more players game time. Also, with Wilson and Wood going into their 30s, there's a clear pathway for him to be sold on being the future at the position as well.

 

We'll see. I think the lure of going to Ajax as their new number 9 will be a massive pull to overcome, so it'll be up to Howe and the recruitment team to really convince him of their belief in him really.

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If only Wilson could stay fit for a full season I genuinely believe he could target 20 PL goals, he’s actually canny underrated in terms of his all-round game, his performance against Arsenal was one of the best all-round CF displays I’ve seen for us since Shearer. He was that good that day, and that attempt…

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1 minute ago, HTT II said:

If only Wilson could stay fit for a full season I genuinely believe he could target 20 PL goals, he’s actually canny underrated in terms of his all-round game, his performance against Arsenal was one of the best all-round CF displays I’ve seen for us since Shearer. He was that good that day, and that attempt…

I still believe that actually went in :lol: 

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I still believe that actually went in :lol: 

Every time I watch it it’s going in…

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

I wouldn't start him ahead of Wilson right away as I don't think that would go down too well! But I think we should rotate Wilson more next season to try and manage him physically, and so you'd hope there'd still be a lot opportunities for game time. He could also play just off Wilson at times too, in a partnership. The 5 subs next season will also help a lot with getting a lot more players game time. Also, with Wilson and Wood going into their 30s, there's a clear pathway for him to be sold on being the future at the position as well.

 

We'll see. I think the lure of going to Ajax as their new number 9 will be a massive pull to overcome, so it'll be up to Howe and the recruitment team to really convince him of their belief in him really.

 

Well your last bit there was why I was suggesting starting him straight away ahead of Wilson. There has to be some incentive for him to pick us over Ajax, and while Wilson would rightly be pissed off, he can't exactly leave anyway until January.

 

Realistically you'd want him as an understudy or competition to Wilson, but sounds like he's adamant he wants first team football almost immediately. Not that different to Ekiteke I suppose (who I still think we'll hold out for ultimately). But for the price it seems we should be all over that if we aren't going to pursue the Hugo.

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