Guest Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 If we're going to part-ex Maxi I'd sooner have Moura from Spurs and some cash than Hudson-Odoi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: Such is the panic at be happy over paying for a player I don't want us to sign at this point. Are you actually really panicking that much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, STM said: The owners have been very consistent in their ability not to rush a single decision. They were slow on sacking Bruce, slow on appointing Howe, slow on appointing a CEO, refused to be bent over a barrel on Ashworth and they weren't exactly speedy gonzales when signing players in January. However, there decisions have been excellent so far and will be during this transfer window. Exactly. The one time they were rushed was due to Wilson's injury, and we ended up with Chris Wood for £25 million ... so comfortable with them taking their time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Are you actually really panicking that much? ? no it was a joke mate haha. Things will come good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, WillingtonMag said: ? no it was a joke mate haha. Things will come good. Thank God man. Was getting worried for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 It’s interesting watching the likes of Scamacca go elsewhere at a reasonable price. The athletic earlier in the summer said he was one of our top targets and he’s definitely within our budget. Suggests they have something else lined up which is pretty exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 People all out of their element, not knowing what to do when we're not in the old pattern of monitoring, derisory bids, "it's hard to get strikers", "we're expecting one or two more", all hopes pinned on one player, everything falls apart, "couldn't get it over the line", loan for rando washed up player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s interesting watching the likes of Scamacca go elsewhere at a reasonable price. The athletic earlier in the summer said he was one of our top targets and he’s definitely within our budget. Suggests they have something else lined up which is pretty exciting. Or else the scouting committee have decided his off field connections and potential drama isn’t worth pursuing over his on field talent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Or else the scouting committee have decided his off field connections and potential drama isn’t worth pursuing over his on field talent? If he was a top target at the start of the summer, I’d assume we would have already done our homework on him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 30 minutes ago, snakzz said: How can they rate Harrison and not Scamacca? They're two entirely different types of players. And Scamacca represents more of a risk than Harrison. Sure, it goes well and £30m seems like a snip, but they'd be signing him off the back of one decent Serie A season. This isn't 90's Serie A either, where 15 goals in a season converted to 20+ in other leagues. Goals are much easier to come by in Serie A these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: If he was a top target at the start of the summer, I’d assume we would have already done our homework on him? Maybe? Who knows? Maybe more info came to light? Maybe we had second thoughts about him and his family and just changed our minds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Maybe? Who knows? Maybe more info came to light? Maybe we had second thoughts about him and his family and just changed our minds? Potentially, obviously something must have happened because at the price quoted you would assume we would be in for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s interesting watching the likes of Scamacca go elsewhere at a reasonable price. The athletic earlier in the summer said he was one of our top targets and he’s definitely within our budget. Suggests they have something else lined up which is pretty exciting. Or maybe Scamacca has already told us he doesn’t want to move to us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s interesting watching the likes of Scamacca go elsewhere at a reasonable price. The athletic earlier in the summer said he was one of our top targets and he’s definitely within our budget. Suggests they have something else lined up which is pretty exciting. I think you're out of the loop mate. Read back a few pages and you'll see reports of unrest on the streets of Tyneside. There's tension in the town square which could erupt at any time. But for now it's simmering under the surface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) At some point we are going to have to pay over the odds for a player in order to get our main transfer target rather than one or two down the list. Diaby for example, if our scouts and data analysis believe he could be transformative for us and not only become a major player for us but in the game in general, they have to believe in that enough to think pushing the boat out will pay dividends regardless and thus just pay what it takes. Of course we don’t want to be ripped off, and it will take convincing some players where wages will matter the most, but I’d rather we overspent on Diaby than say Harrison, although I’d be happy with the latter even if we overspent on him because he’d improve the team and eventually if we replaced him with someone better, he’d improve the squad as a squad player given us further strength in depth. I also get we have one aye on FFP rules, but if we blew our load early on top players, meaning we have less to spend later on, we’d get to the levels we want to get to quicker and I’d rather we did that because we would then only need to add incrementally to the squad to keep sustaining and improving transfer window after transfer window. On that note I’d be disappointed with a 10th place finish next season, especially given we finished 11th last season. Yes we have to be mindful of the 14 years under Ashley prior to the takeover, but I’d rather forget that and look forwards and remember where we NOW are which is a wealthy club, an ambitious one, totally professional on and off the pitch now and with a very good young manager. That and football is mostly about momentum and we are on a high right now after our strong finish to the season and shouldn’t be looking at mid-table, but the top 6 and European football which would directly also accelerate our commercial revenues and bring in extra money to combat FFP. I do trust, however, the people in charge will do the right things and I won’t be panicking and I do believe we will spend more than we did in January. I also reckon the club are very self conscious of keeping on the good side of the PL and not going all out just yet until we have the right and correct people in at the club so should the PL and other clubs kick off, we will have top people who will know how to basically tell them all to suck it up and do one. We’ve hired an excellent DOF and a seemingly top CEO on that front and we are also looking at hiring people in the legal departments. Edited July 22, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s interesting watching the likes of Scamacca go elsewhere at a reasonable price. The athletic earlier in the summer said he was one of our top targets and he’s definitely within our budget. Suggests they have something else lined up which is pretty exciting. Or do we?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, HTT II said: I also get we have one aye on FFP rules, but if we blew our load early on top players, meaning we have less to spend later on, we’d get to the levels we want to get to quicker and I’d rather we did that because we would then only need to add incrementally to the squad to keep sustaining and improving transfer window after transfer window. The problem/scary thing with this part is, I imagine that's exactly what Everton told themselves while they were spunking cash on big names. It assumes every 'top player' you sign is going to hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: Such is the panic at be happy over paying for a player I don't want us to sign at this point. “The panic” - you mean “my panic”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, Theregulars said: “The panic” - you mean “my panic”. No read the previous pages the anxiety is noticeable throughout the city, Newcastle is a tinderbox right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, sushimonster85 said: The problem/scary thing with this part is, I imagine that's exactly what Everton told themselves while they were spunking cash on big names. It assumes every 'top player' you sign is going to hit. They spent a shit load, but there was no foundations behind their signings in terms of playing strategy and they went through a lot of managers. We now have a system behind the scenes they didn’t and still don’t where we can spend big money, and get it mostly right. Not every player will succeed, but I’d back Howe to get the most out of any player we sign, from a Wood or a Diaby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, HTT II said: At some point we are going to have to pay over the odds for a player in order to get our main transfer target rather than one or two down the list. Diaby for example, if our scouts and data analysis believe he could be transformative for us and not only become a major player for us but in the game in general, they have to believe in that enough to think pushing the boat out will pay dividends regardless and thus just pay what it takes. Of course we don’t want to be ripped off, and it will take convincing some players where wages will matter the most, but I’d rather we overspent on Diaby than say Harrison, although I’d be happy with the latter even if we overspent on him because he’d improve the team and eventually if we replaced him with someone better, he’d improve the squad as a squad player given us further strength in depth. I also get we have one aye on FFP rules, but if we blew our load early on top players, meaning we have less to spend later on, we’d get to the levels we want to get to quicker and I’d rather we did that because we would then only need to add incrementally to the squad to keep sustaining and improving transfer window after transfer window. On that note I’d be disappointed with a 10th place finish next season, especially given we finished 11th last season. Yes we have to be mindful of the 14 years under Ashley prior to the takeover, but I’d rather forget that and look forwards and remember where we NOW are which is a wealthy club, an ambitious one, totally professional on and off the pitch now and with a very good young manager. That and football is mostly about momentum and we are on a high right now after our strong finish to the season and shouldn’t be looking at mid-table, but the top 6 and European football which would directly also accelerate our commercial revenues and bring in extra money to combat FFP. I do trust, however, the people in charge will do the right things and I won’t be panicking and I do believe we will spend more than we did in January. I also reckon the club are very self conscious of keeping on the good side of the PL and not going all out just yet until we have the right and correct people in at the club so should the PL and other clubs kick off, we will have top people who will know how to basically tell them all to suck it up and do one. We’ve hired an excellent DOF and a seemingly top CEO on that front and we are also looking at hiring people in the legal departments. I said in an earlier thread that I'd be disappointed if we ended up treading water this season because we are wary of FFP, but there's still over a month to go in this window. I have to believe we've got at least one game changer forward incoming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'd have Wijnaldum back on loan like. Don't give a fuck what system you fit him in, he's quality and him and Bruno would soon find a rhythm. And before you bother, I know wages and yada yada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, TRon said: I said in an earlier thread that I'd be disappointed if we ended up treading water this season because we are wary of FFP, but there's still over a month to go in this window. I have to believe we've got at least one game changer forward incoming. Go big or go home as is the saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, STM said: I'd have Wijnaldum back on loan like. Don't give a fuck what system you fit him in, he's quality and him and Bruno would soon find a rhythm. And before you bother, I know wages and yada yada. I would too, vastly experienced, still quality and can play a number of roles and positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, gdm said: Or maybe Scamacca has already told us he doesn’t want to move to us Or maybe we enquired and were told 60mill ? Anyway, weren't there loads of reports questioning his suitability for the English game ? Edited July 22, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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