BoSelecta Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Parqueta is worth a fair bit more than Botman surely? Even Bruno to an extent, more established in the Brasil team at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kanji said: We were throwing out 30-40m bids on center backs in Jan. We were throwing out similar value bids for other players that didn’t materialize then and this summer. the lol’s and smug comments and the ha ha’s are so strange and unnecessary. What's strange is the amount Paqueta is mentioned in this thread as some sort of nailed on signing. He's Brunos mate and we showed an interest in January but I can't see any substance past that right now. We are playing hard ball on RW/ST options in terms of fees, so it seems very far fetched that we would throw caution to the wind for a CM, at this stage. Edited July 23, 2022 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Parqueta is worth a fair bit more than Botman surely? Even Bruno to an extent, more established in the Brasil team at least. To Lyon perhaps, but not to a side that doesn't see CM as a current priority. I think we'd all agree that the club sees ST/RW as a priority, but if we aren't willing to spend 45m on those positions we aren't signing Paqueta for that. It would go against everything I have perceived so far. Edited July 23, 2022 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, STM said: What's strange is the amount Paqueta is mentioned in this thread as some sort of nailed on signing. He's Brunos mate and we showed an interest in January but I can't see any substance past that right now. Exactly this. There have been as many reports saying we don’t intend to sign him as there has been linking him but people are convinced he’s coming here. I just don’t get it Edited July 23, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Parqueta is worth a fair bit more than Botman surely? Even Bruno to an extent, more established in the Brasil team at least. For sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, STM said: To Lyon perhaps, but not to a side that doesn't see CM as a current priority. I think we'd all agree that the club sees ST/RW as a priority, but if we aren't willing to spend 45m on those positions we aren't signing Paqueta for that. It would go against everything I have perceived so far. From what I can understand, the position has always been that we follow our transfer strategy, but that if an opportunity elsewhere comes up that is too good to pass up, we wouldn't. Probably a lot of people on here put Paqueta into that category, which doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Not least because we apparently enquired about him in January, and we've gone back to both our other big January targets already. Not saying we're likely to be in for him - I don't know. But I also don't think it's daft for people to think or hope that we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Sulemana is gunna be great fwiw. We likely will balk at what they ask for but you can tell by watching a little bit of him he's got loads of talent. Doesn't take a registration slot this season or next either I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, Abacus said: From what I can understand, the position has always been that we follow our transfer strategy, but that if an opportunity elsewhere comes up that is too good to pass up, we wouldn't. Probably a lot of people on here put Paqueta into that category, which doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Not least because we apparently enquired about him in January, and we've gone back to both our other big January targets already. Not saying we're likely to be in for him - I don't know. But I also don't think it's daft for people to think or hope that we will. Whilst I agree with the idea of seizing the opportunity, I wouldn't count him as someone likely to join. Its actually very unlikely buy I keep seeing him in people's line ups etc. Diaby was more likely and that one's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Anyway, why hasn't more been made of the inaccurate reporting on Nick Pope's fee? We were all told 10/12m by supposedly reliable people but it turns out to be just 7m. They honestly haven't the foggiest fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, STM said: Anyway, why hasn't more been made of the inaccurate reporting on Nick Pope's fee? We were all told 10/12m by supposedly reliable people but it turns out to be just 7m. They honestly haven't the foggiest fuck. It's 10m. 3m up front and 7m in installments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: It's 10m. 3m up front and 7m in installments. Happy to be corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 That only shows the three future instalments from next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 That either means the next 3 installments total £7m, ie not counting what is already paid, or the transfer fee totals £7m. Depends on how you read it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Ah I see. Cheers for clearing that up. Still a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: That either means the next 3 installments total £7m, ie not counting what is already paid, or the transfer fee totals £7m. Depends on how you read it. It's bad writing if it's saying the transfer fee was 7M in total. It's like those shite maths problems that are deliberately written out wrong just to get hits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: Paqueta looks world class and potentially a bargain at £40m if that could get him. On paper he instantly transforms our best XI. I think he's by far and away the best player we could realistically sign this window. Like everything about the transfer seems to make perfect sense. Amazingly there doesn't even seem to be any real competition from other clubs for him right now either, which I think there will be after the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, STM said: What's strange is the amount Paqueta is mentioned in this thread as some sort of nailed on signing. He's Brunos mate and we showed an interest in January but I can't see any substance past that right now. We are playing hard ball on RW/ST options in terms of fees, so it seems very far fetched that we would throw caution to the wind for a CM, at this stage. IDK mate, he was specifically name checked by Howe at the end of the season and there’s been just as much smoke about yes/no on him and the price being very high for there not be a strong level of interest at the right price and very plausible we are waiting it out. It’s been said multiple times by the various journalists that if an opportunity arises at some point to sign someone earlier, they very well could pull the trigger and get it done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kanj Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I do find the quiet/pause period to be a little frustrating more than anything (and before anyone says “chill out, remember Ashley period?” Yes, I do remember, I remember every period since I’ve been a fan…) — I was just expecting a little more of the January aggressive attempts versus the more chilled approach. All good, I expect them to get some deals done - we desperately need a starting caliber right winger, an attacking midfielder who is as much a dribbler/driver with the ball, passer/creative, and goal scorer (Paqueta PLZ ffs) with versatility to slot in the front 3 if possible, and a backup or competing striker to Wilson (if that’s Sesko or Zapata or DCL) as we need goals. I know they don’t want to get mugged, and I do trust Ashworth, Howe and the Board but I really want to continue the momentum of last season and really kick on. Few injuries to the key players and we’re going to be sweating until January and kicking ourselves or not getting some deals done. On the commercial side, they will no doubt get the income level to back the spend in - whether that’s later, it will happen. (Can PIF stop pissing about with LIV and upsetting the PGA and throw some dough our way a bit, get 1/3 bit as aggressive and sign some fuckers?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Why does everyone we are linked with cost 35 million ? Edited July 23, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 He’d be a very good signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Why does everyone we are linked with cost 35 million ? Probably because they’re actually closer to £25m but we’re quoted higher on every link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Hope the lad pulls through ? Edited July 23, 2022 by Ameritoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Doubt they’ll stick to that. Looked really special until his back injury; he just came back and hasn’t looked quite the same (or still still recovering). Bit of a risk but, in theory, it’s the best time to go for him if we want decent value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Why does everyone we are linked with cost 35 million ? Was thinking that myself. At least we're back to monitoring players again anyway. Next stop, keeping tabs on... Edited July 23, 2022 by Scoot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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