SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: Didn’t some journalist say he had no intention of returning to us, so maybe we sounded him out and he told us no Fingers crossed, don’t want him back at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Wijnaldum can fuck off, he's a twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: This place is something else ... you would actually be happy to go and spend a fee and significant wages on a 31 year old Wijnaldum. God forbid!!! I though PSG were desperate to get rid. If it’s not a big fee I don’t see age as an issue personally. I could see politics getting in the way of us dealing with PSG anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Unbelievable said: What would you propose? A player on a par or better than Wilson will take his place and may force him out the door. A young understudy may not yet be good enough. Ultimately, if we are to progress as a club, there needs to be competition for places and the players will have to welcome it or be replaced by better ones. Personally I would be looking at a player with at least the same standing as Wilson. Unfortunately you cannot rely on Wilson to be fit. I would also be looking at a younger player also. Whether that happens I can't honestly say, we will see at the end of the window (possibly not). Your last point sums it up perfectly, players have to realise the club is looking to progress and will therefore look for a higher level player to replace/compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Wijnaldum was our 15/16 season equivalent of Michael Owen. I passionately despise him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kimbo said: I though PSG were desperate to get rid. If it’s not a big fee I don’t see age as an issue personally. I could see politics getting in the way of us dealing with PSG anyway. I just think there are loads of other up and coming talents who would be far more energised and motivated to join what we are currently building. Why go and bring in this older guy that is on his way down, and who could hardly get a kick at PSG last year. No thanks. We've got to move past all these 'names' just because they are well known. There are other younger players coming through that we need to identify and go and sign. Just because they aren't house hold names yet, doesn't mean they don't exist. It's up to our scouting and DOF to go and get them. That midfielder Palace just signed is very highly rated, and they 've got him for just £23 million or so from Lens. We can't have Palace signing those kind of players while we go signing Wijnaldum at 31 years old man. Then in a year we'll be wanting to sign him off Palace for £60 million when he does well, which would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Why go and bring in this older guy that is on his way down, and who could hardly get a kick at PSG last year. No thanks. hardly a stick to beat him with that. not sure if I'd take him, but thought he was class in the Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, James said: Wijnaldum was our 15/16 season equivalent of Michael Owen. I passionately despise him I don't despise him but I didn't like him for us at all. I don't think he would come either. But - I would take him him on loan for sure. In a midfield 3 Bruno - Shelvey Gini or Gini - Bruno - Joe. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) I don't mind a big name player on loan with an agreed option to buy. I'd take any Chelsea attacker on that basis. Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner - whoever. Edited June 28, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Not many getting wood at the thought of that. But I can guarantee you that Howe will still see Wood as the back up for Wilson regardless of what we think of him, and I don't rate him at all. Realistically we aren't going to be spending £60m to bring in a replacement for Wilson, even assuming one was available. It will be someone along the Ekiteke mode who can be an understudy, or possibly play alongside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, et tu brute said: What if he misses half the season though again. Say we get a promising young striker, but is then thrust into being a regular as a result of Wilson being off long term again. Very dangerous position that mind as the exact same thing happened with Jon Dahl Tomasson. I love the way everyone acts as if Wood doesn't exist because none of us rate him. It's wishful thinking really. Whether any of us like it or not, the manager is going to use him, and not just throw him away. He just paid £25 million for him a few months ago, and will use him as part of the squad, which is why they are looking at bringing in a younger striker. Best case scenario, which we all need to be praying for, is that Wilson stays relatively healthy, and that whichever young striker we bring in also makes such an impact, that he then clearly moves ahead of Wood in the pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Gini replacing Joelinton? The Wijnaldum that played for Newcastle would never do that sort of work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I love the way everyone acts as if Wood doesn't exist because none of us rate him. It's wishful thinking really. Whether any of us like it or not, the manager is going to use him, and not just throw him away. He just paid £25 million for him a few months ago, and will use him as part of the squad, which is why they are looking at bringing in a younger striker. Best case scenario, which we all need to be praying for, is that Wilson stays relatively healthy, and that whichever young striker we bring in also makes such an impact, that he then clearly moves ahead of Wood in the pecking order. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: I just think there are loads of other up and coming talents who would be far more energised and motivated to join what we are currently building. Why go and bring in this older guy that is on his way down, and who could hardly get a kick at PSG last year. No thanks. We've got to move past all these 'names' just because they are well known. There are other younger players coming through that we need to identify and go and sign. Just because they aren't house hold names yet, doesn't mean they don't exist. It's up to our scouting and DOF to go and get them. That midfielder Palace just signed is very highly rated, and they 've got him for just £23 million or so from Lens. We can't have Palace signing those kind of players while we go signing Wijnaldum at 31 years old man. Then in a year we'll be wanting to sign him off Palace for £60 million when he does well, which would be ridiculous. I would rather spend money on a young up and comer as well, but I have strong doubts it will happen this window with it being less of a priority than a winger and a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 What I'd give for a prime Cabaye in our midfield now (or Tiote)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big River said: hardly a stick to beat him with that. not sure if I'd take him, but thought he was class in the Euros. But why ... you guys act as though no other players exist out there. Best case scenario we get a couple of seasons out of him, before we then need to go and get a younger player anyway. He's hardly a world class player either, so there's just no need for it man. I think it's an awful idea. Let Gini stay where he is on the bench. Couldn't believe he turned down Barcelona to join them last year. We shouldn't be the one's to go pulling him out of that mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: I love the way everyone acts as if Wood doesn't exist because none of us rate him. It's wishful thinking really. Whether any of us like it or not, the manager is going to use him, and not just throw him away. He just paid £25 million for him a few months ago, and will use him as part of the squad, which is why they are looking at bringing in a younger striker. Best case scenario, which we all need to be praying for, is that Wilson stays relatively healthy, and that whichever young striker we bring in also makes such an impact, that he then clearly moves ahead of Wood in the pecking order. Wilson has never and won’t ever stay fit, it would be poor planning to rely on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kimbo said: I would rather spend money on a young up and comer as well, but I have strong doubts it will happen this window with it being less of a priority than a winger and a forward. Stop having doubts. They will get to it eventually. Wijnaldum is not the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Wilson has never and won’t ever stay fit, it would be poor planning to rely on him. We aren't planning on relying on him though, that's why we were chasing Ekiteke. I'm sure there will be alternatives as well if that one is dead. I just don't think it's going to be a Darwin Nunez calibre striker, partly because those aren't available to us yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I love the way everyone acts as if Wood doesn't exist because none of us rate him. It's wishful thinking really. Whether any of us like it or not, the manager is going to use him, and not just throw him away. He just paid £25 million for him a few months ago, and will use him as part of the squad, which is why they are looking at bringing in a younger striker. Best case scenario, which we all need to be praying for, is that Wilson stays relatively healthy, and that whichever young striker we bring in also makes such an impact, that he then clearly moves ahead of Wood in the pecking order. You maybe right, he's still absolute shit. If we're relying on Wood as backup to Wilson again and Wilson gets another long term injury, then it's going to be a long frustrating season. I think it's a massive gamble (niave at best) to rely on Wilson being fit. We will see what happens come 1st September though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Wilson has never and won’t ever stay fit, it would be poor planning to rely on him. It's certainly a terrifying prospect, but unfortunately, even though we see it as possibly relying on him too much, by having Wilson, Wood and a younger talented striker, the manager will not be looking at it the same way. He will view Wood as a viable option upfront for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, et tu brute said: You maybe right, he's still absolute shit. If we're relying on Wood as backup to Wilson again and Wilson gets another long term injury, then it's going to be a long frustrating season. I think it's a massive gamble (niave at best) to rely on Wilson being fit. We will see what happens come 1st September though. Yeah, it's rough. But I'm willing to patient about it, he'll get replaced soon enough. There's only so much we can do at once, and because he only just came in January, I don't see it being a priority. Hopefully, we land a younger striker that's a bit special, and pushes ahead of Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Gini replacing Joelinton? The Wijnaldum that played for Newcastle would never do that sort of work. Aye, but a midfield of Bruno, Big Joe, coupled with the experience/class of GG? Add favoured two wide players/forwards and a central striker… tasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said: What I'd give for a prime Cabaye in our midfield now (or Tiote)... We've got a better version of Cabaye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, KaKa said: But why ... you guys act as though no other players exist out there. Best case scenario we get a couple of seasons out of him, before we then need to go and get a younger player anyway. He's hardly a world class player either, so there's just no need for it man. I think it's an awful idea. Let Gini stay where he is on the bench. Couldn't believe he turned down Barcelona to join them last year. We shouldn't be the one's to go pulling him out of that mess. Kaka dropping truth bombs left right and centre with this and the Wood comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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