Lazarus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Hes a left winger isnt he? I only really know him from FM. Absolute assist machine in one of the games, like 30+ in either the last FM or the one before. Surely he will cost a fortune in wages though? Edited July 7, 2022 by Lazarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Hes a left winger isnt he? I only really know him from FM. Absolute assist machine in one of the games, like 30+ in either the last FM or the one before. Surely he will cost a fortune in wages though? Wants around £135kpw apparently, I read somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Give him it. If current players whinge tell them they can have the same once they’ve helped us go far in the Champions League, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Thing is that I want us to go for players that can/will grow with the club. Get players that get better with time hopefully . Doing it this way we wont have to replace as many players as we would if we sign players that aren’t quite top top class but wont be good enough for “phase 2” either. Ideally we get players that definitely improve us now but can go another level or two or even more within time. Obviously not against elite players with the right hunger and attitude, but we are not quite there yet to get these. Going this path is probably the most sensible and economically achievable without spending ridiculous levels, ffp and all that. This is why I doubt we will be going for players like Asensio for example. I like the idea of us going more organically but in a more ambitious way than most other clubs. Need to find the level of players before they reach the ultimate elite level. Avoid the likes of James Rodrigues and similar. Edited July 7, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, Flip said: He's not been shocking, but nowhere near the standard I expected from watching them week in week out. Has a great shot on him, but a part from that he's nothing special in my honest opinion. Have a feeling he'd be another Albert Luque for some reason. Awesome in his first match and then injured never to be back to his best again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Hes a left winger isnt he? I only really know him from FM. Absolute assist machine in one of the games, like 30+ in either the last FM or the one before. Surely he will cost a fortune in wages though? Predominantly a RW but can play LW or AM. Tbh I confused him with Carrasco who we have also been linked with. He is a LW that can also play RW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, STM said: This is what I suspected. When you have someone like Rafa as a phone-a-friend, you use it. I'd like to think that a part of Eddie Howes "education" trips to Madrid and the likes were partly a networking mission. You can't tell me that when we signed Trippier, Howes relationship with Simeone didn't make a small difference. It is relatively common for European managers to spend a week or two at other clubs when they don't have a job. Just to learn new tactics, ideas on coaching, fitness, scouting players etc. I remember Poch stating he spent a week with Rafa at Inter or at Madrid. Looks like Klopp spent time at Porto or Benfica between Dortmund and Liverpool jobs. He always speaks highly about the footballing culture in Portugal. Rafa has been very open about the time he spent at Milan and Bayern. I think once he was fired from Inter, he spent a week at Arsenal. Which might explain the Hayden signing. Some of the more modern British progressive coaches seem to be following suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, rgk_lfc said: It is relatively common for European managers to spend a week or two at other clubs when they don't have a job. Just to learn new tactics, ideas on coaching, fitness, scouting players etc. I remember Poch stating he spent a week with Rafa at Inter or at Madrid. Looks like Klopp spent time at Porto or Benfica between Dortmund and Liverpool jobs. He always speaks highly about the footballing culture in Portugal. Rafa has been very open about the time he spent at Milan and Bayern. I think once he was fired from Inter, he spent a week at Arsenal. Which might explain the Hayden signing. Some of the more modern British progressive coaches seem to be following suit. Howe went to A.Madrid iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 After A' Madrid, Howe stopped by Sunderland to see how not to do things, which was very valuable but he inadvertently picked up a lot of rads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Turning our noses up at Marco Fucking Asensio 200 odd games for Real Madrid at 26. 1 in 3 in the league last year. Other fans are right, we are deluded. Edited July 7, 2022 by Unlucky Luque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Unlucky Luque said: Turning our noses up at Marco Fucking Asensio Other fans are right, we are deluded. Names don’t win games. Plus I doubt we are after him anyway. I wouldn’t be totally against it but I’m not gonna lie, I’m by no means convinced that he would be a success. Doesn’t matter how good you are if there’s no hunger and motivation. Edited July 7, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Unlucky Luque said: Turning our noses up at Marco Fucking Asensio 200 odd games for Real Madrid at 26. 1 in 3 in the league last year. Other fans are right, we are deluded. I’d take him, just not 100% sure that he’d fit into the team ethos and where we want to be in a year or two, and how we want to be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Would prefer a pacier option to Asensio. Think his game is more suited to Spain or Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Its like a parody at times. He was literally pencilled in to sign for Liverpool. How fucking bad can he be? On a serious note, he seems versatile which I'm sure is something that Howe wants. If he can play CAM in a 4231, as well as left of right wing, well that adds to his potential value to our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Tbh I am suspicious of the top clubs getting rid of talented players in their prime years. Take Varane going to Man Utd, he can’t stay fit and when he has played he’s not been good enough. Madrid knew they were selling them a pup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 It’s made up stuff anyway. To drum up some interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonScotman Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Wilock isn’t shit on the ball ffs. I really like Willock, if given the opportunities I think he’ll be a star this year under Eddie, you can see he was really starting to hit form again before his injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Willock is a player who is mostly effective when a team is in transition. Otherwise I don’t think he offers too much. Not if we are looking to control games more. But that might come later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Willock graduated from Arsenal's academy. I think he'd be able to pass the ball around if need be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Willock graduated from Arsenal's academy. I think he'd be able to pass the ball around if need be. He is able to do it, he’s just not very good at it. Not awful I wouldn’t say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Willock graduated from Arsenal's academy. I think he'd be able to pass the ball around if need be. True, but so did Isaac Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Quick look on Twitter and their fans seem delighted at prospect of him leaving. 10 league goals last season. I’ve said it for ages but Real Madrid fans are the absolute worst of the worst. Arrogant bastards to a man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Regal paper is a much better phrase than gift wrap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Willock seems to be missing most of a game, that is until he scores or assists like he did against Leicester and I end up scratching my head. I like him, hes a decent player but in 12 months time if an Everton or Palace or whatever came in with a half decent bid, I'd be tempted to cash in. Still has 12 months to progress and prove there is more to his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: True, but so did Isaac Hayden. Jesus, that's a good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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