The College Dropout Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Depends who we end up with at the end of the window. It would've been better having them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: It’s not ‘could’ do better under Bruce, it was ‘should’ do better - there is a difference. The benchline with that squad was midtable. The benchline now with £150m+ expenditure is still midtable? But thats not the point, that squad hadn't been getting mid-table, people are meerly saying that having a season without ever being scared of relegation would be tangible progress as a club as that hasn't happened for literal years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, The College Dropout said: It would've been better having them now. Better to have the right player in a month than the wrong player now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: It would've been better having them now. Not disagreeing on that, just think if we took an extra 5 weeks to get in real top class quality then it’s better than having the likes of Cornet in right now. Edited July 29, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) People are still judging their expectations based on Ashley. It’s not their fault, tbf. Years of being groomed. The bare minimum isn’t the aim. This squad even without further investment should be aiming for 10th or higher. We have the finance and opportunity to fill two important positions and we should do so. That should put us in a strong position for a strong season. @54was meant to quote you and now it’s not playing ball. Edited July 29, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, TRon said: I'd take 8th as a bare minimum, but yes we need to be aggressively pursuing 7th and that final European spot. None of this 8-12th would be progress. Aye - mean 10th is literal progress from 11th last season. I don't see how going backwards "but no threat of relegation" is a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, hakka said: OK with you - sorry I misinterpreted your post. Sound. We've had so many players linked, I wouldn't get too wound up until we know the links are actually genuine. Cornet makes a lot of sense to me tbh, unless we have a really big fish we are hoping to still land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Not disagreeing on that, just think if we took an extra 5 weeks to get in real top class quality then it’s better than having the likes of Cornet in right now. Maybe. I like Cornet a lot tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Hard to believe just 12 months ago a sizeable chunk of Newcastle fans would have willingly and genuinely accepted relegation to get rid of Ashley. Yet here we are. Moaning because we still have 2 positions to cover and only a handful of Internationals to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: People are still judging their expectations based on Ashley. It’s not their fault, tbf. Years of being groomed. The bare minimum isn’t the aim. This squad even without further investment should be aiming for 10th or higher. We have the finance and opportunity to fill two important positions and we should do so. That should put us in a strong position for a strong season. Nah. 44 goals midfield and forward line. 9th is the ceiling with that type of output. I think Wolves & Brighton bored the league to that type of finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I like Cornet a lot. But we could've signed him a month ago. That's my only issue with that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: I like Cornet a lot. But we could've signed him a month ago. That's my only issue with that one. And pay a month of wages for no reason? Mike would be turning in his grave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I like Cornet a lot. But we could've signed him a month ago. That's my only issue with that one. Just means we were (still are?) hopeful of signing someone even better. Unless we sign no one, I really don't see a downside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Not disagreeing on that, just think if we took an extra 5 weeks to get in real top class quality then it’s better than having the likes of Cornet in right now. That right winger slot is tricky. Especially, as we appear to be leaning towards having a left footer in that slot. There aren't many Bruno level players that we can go for there. Diaby was the clear one, but it didn't work out, mostly due to Leverkusen making the Champions League IMO. I'll say it again though, if it is Cornet he will surprise people a lot. He's shown the ability at Champions League level in that position. He's also still just 25 years old. But the real beauty of the situation would be that due to the low release clause, we could still look at going back in for Diaby next summer as we wouldn't have broken the bank for Cornet, unlike paying £35 million odd for Harrison for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: People are still judging their expectations based on Ashley. It’s not their fault, tbf. Years of being groomed. The bare minimum isn’t the aim. This squad even without further investment should be aiming for 10th or higher. We have the finance and opportunity to fill two important positions and we should do so. That should put us in a strong position for a strong season. @54was meant to quote you and now it’s not playing ball. I think we're both kind of falling foul of each other using different language here tbh. I don't think the aim for this season should be between 8th and 12th, the aim should be trying to do what West Ham did last season, and I think the players and staff will be thinking that, but I don't think it'd be a failure if we finished between that 8th to 12th spot without being in any trouble at any point, and doing that would be progress on where the club has been, especially if we have a cup run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, midds said: Hard to believe just 12 months ago a sizeable chunk of Newcastle fans would have willingly and genuinely accepted relegation to get rid of Ashley. Yet here we are. Moaning because we still have 2 positions to cover and only a handful of Internationals to do it. But that’s what you should do though - you should want to improve and have more success, especially when you have a greater wealth of resources. I’m sure we’ll look back on this conversation in five years time when people are disappointed to lose the CL final on penalties. We’ll still rightly be able to comment on it and put criticism forward if it’s required, saying “oh well, don’t forget about the time we were worried about playing Chris Wood upfront” isn’t good enough mitigation if Neymar misses a sitter in the 90th minute, people will still be upset because our expectations will have changed. Edited July 29, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, midds said: Hard to believe just 12 months ago a sizeable chunk of Newcastle fans would have willingly and genuinely accepted relegation to get rid of Ashley. Yet here we are. Moaning because we still have 2 positions to cover and only a handful of Internationals to do it. We are entitled to be buying everyone. We are the richest club on the planet etc. The amount of fans pissing on about how shite our new owners are was expected to be fair. Wasn’t expecting as many on here mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: That right winger slot is tricky. Especially, as we appear to be leaning towards having a left footer in that slot. There aren't many Bruno level players that we can go for there. Diaby was the clear one, but it didn't work out, mostly due to Leverkusen making the Champions League IMO. I'll say it again though, if it is Cornet he will surprise people a lot. He's shown the ability at Champions League level in that position. He's also still just 25 years old. But the real beauty of the situation would be that due to the low release clause, we could still look at going back in for Diaby next summer as we wouldn't have broken the bank for Cornet, unlike paying £35 million odd for Harrison for example. Don’t get me wrong I’m not against signing him and certainly sounds like a good price. I was more saying that if it took an extra 5 weeks to bring in as you say a Bruno level player, then it would certainly be worth the wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, RS said: We are entitled to be buying everyone. We are the richest club on the planet etc. The amount of fans pissing on about how shite our new owners are was expected to be fair. Wasn’t expecting as many on here mind. Can you show me an example of this? Or have you made this up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I'm linking us with Matheus Nascimento from Botofogo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I like Cornet a lot. But we could've signed him a month ago. That's my only issue with that one. based off what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, B-more Mag said: I'm linking us with Matheus Nascimento from Botofogo. Has he ever played for Burnley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 How is this thread so busy? Everytime I step away and come back to it theres pages and pages to read........of nothing but shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, midds said: Hard to believe just 12 months ago a sizeable chunk of Newcastle fans would have willingly and genuinely accepted relegation to get rid of Ashley. Yet here we are. Moaning because we still have 2 positions to cover and only a handful of Internationals to do it. How dare we want the best for the football club 9 minutes ago, RS said: We are entitled to be buying everyone. We are the richest club on the planet etc. The amount of fans pissing on about how shite our new owners are was expected to be fair. Wasn’t expecting as many on here mind. Haven’t seen one single person say our new owners are shite that’s more hyperbolic as the people not happy at potential signing Edited July 29, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Has he ever played for Burnley? I knew I was missing something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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