Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, STM said: Froggy, we are shite mate. Lingard is a massive upgrade on what we have. Possibly, but when you're able to sign players like Bruno Guimaraes I'd just steer clear from him to be honest. Like I said, if you give us money for him I'll be delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: His first handful of games? Brilliant little purple patch. He played absolutely shit after that, and West Ham missed out on the CL because of shit results against Everton and somebody else in the lower half of the table who I can't remember. He started with like 9 goals and 5 assists in his first 10/11 games and I don't think he got anything in his final 6 when the going got tough. His West Ham spell is the only reason there's a chance of us getting money for him right now. I promise you, he isn't a good player. As Disco pointed out, he’s better than Fraser and Murphy and thus an upgrade for us. A six month loan is no brainer for us at a reasonable price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Jawdaw said: Yes but you could get some return on him if you weren’t asking for silly money. Just seems a bit strange to turn your back on a few million. That's all posturing. I think we all know that £12m fee will be halved or even more in a few days. To get any sort of relegation clause at all would be a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Funny how he's apparently gone from not wanting to join to now angry as fuck for being blocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Caught between better than we have and could help, and not doing any business with man u at all. Suppose it depends on how much Mandy & Co have singled this one out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 For the right fee, he is a decent addition for the next 5 months. Otherwise, not too fussed if he doesn't come. Have a feeling that we will see a surprise wide forward name in the next four days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: Funny how he's apparently gone from not wanting to join to now angry as fuck for being blocked. He's in Dubai jogging around with his best mate Rashford. He's happy as Larry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Conjo said: Not really fussed whether we get him or not. He would definitely be useful for the next 4 months, but not crtical for survival imo if we get Bruno and a CB in before the window shuts. There's younger and better players we can bring in for next season. Nah man. Someone like Lingard is far more important than another CB. This kind of thought process is so wild me to me. Like we all watch football right?! Midfield dictates everything, including how the opposition deals (or doesn’t) with your defense. CB is not nearly as important as a better midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Think he would have done great here and taken the pressure of Max. Glad we haven't let Man U take the p1ss though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, PeepShow4life said: Glad we haven't let Man U take the p1ss though. Yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 As others have said this smells like deadline day stuff. Sky are going to need more than 1 reporter in Newcastle on Monday at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Wouldn’t give them any form of survival bonus tbh. I understand the perceived logic from Manchester but na, they can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I guess this is the only sort of victory Man Utd get to have these days, so fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, r0cafella said: Wouldn’t give them any form of survival bonus tbh. I understand the perceived logic from Manchester but na, they can fuck off. Wages paid in full, £2m loan fee, £4m survival fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: Wages paid in full, £2m loan fee, £4m survival fee. That would be a no from me dog. A 2mill loan fee for a 6 month loan is already excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Nah man. Someone like Lingard is far more important than another CB. This I don't agree with. 4 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Midfield dictates everything, including how the opposition deals (or doesn’t) with your defense. CB is not nearly as important as a better midfield. This I agree with. Maybe I haven't watched enough of him, but Lingard doesn't strike me as a player that dictates a match. In his first 10 matches for West Ham he scored 9 and assisted 4 goals. He managed 0 goals & 1 assist in remaining 6 matches which is more in line with the rest of his career so it's safe to assume it is more likely a purple patch like Willock rather than being a player teams have to take special precautions against. We seem to be getting a proper CM that we've been screaming out for in Bruno. If we get him, I think our next priority should be a CB considering the amount of goals we let in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Conjo said: Maybe I haven't watched enough of him, but Lingard doesn't strike me as a player that dictates a match. In his first 10 matches for West Ham he scored 9 and assisted 4 goals. He managed 0 goals & 1 assist in remaining 6 matches which is more in line with the rest of his career so it's safe to assume it is more likely a purple patch like Willock rather than being a player teams have to take special precautions against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 If they're insisting on a survival bonus and Howe is dead set on Lingard rather than anyone else, I'd tie the survival bonus to a set number of goals and assists from Lingard and keep that part of the arrangement between the clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: I'd tie the survival bonus to a set number of goals and assists from Lingard and keep that part of the arrangement between the clubs. Just a £2m loan fee is fine cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Conjo said: This I don't agree with. This I agree with. Maybe I haven't watched enough of him, but Lingard doesn't strike me as a player that dictates a match. In his first 10 matches for West Ham he scored 9 and assisted 4 goals. He managed 0 goals & 1 assist in remaining 6 matches which is more in line with the rest of his career so it's safe to assume it is more likely a purple patch like Willock rather than being a player teams have to take special precautions against. We seem to be getting a proper CM that we've been screaming out for in Bruno. If we get him, I think our next priority should be a CB considering the amount of goals we let in. Compare that with our current options tho! If he could replicate any of that early west ham form he'd be well above fraser and Murphy's season long total after 30 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: Just a £2m loan fee is fine cheers. Froggy pls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xa7as Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Loving the fact we've the high and mighty at Man United rattled despite winning twice all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Xa7as said: Loving the fact we've the high and mighty at Man United rattled despite winning twice all season. Think they're just being sensible that the club could well be a problem for them within a few seasons, so why would they want to help hasten that problem? Edited January 28, 2022 by Pixelphish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We really need more pace up top if we get Bruno, hope this happens (or someone similar) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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