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6 hours ago, Outremont said:

He has to come in for Shelvey. Willock makes forward runs and JL7 is undroppable. Shelvey all day. 


That won’t work.
 

Any midfield needs at least one holding midfielder, and that’s someone who stays deep all the time to support the defenders while giving those sweet passes forward. That’s Shelvey. Joe and Willock are more of box to box or ball winning midfielders. They are the roaming type. Bruno is also a roaming type, and having 3 roaming midfielders at the same time will simply leave you exposed at the back very easily. Won’t happen. 
 

Not only did Bruno play as the roaming/box to box type with Lyon and Brazil, you can see how we found him inside Everton’s penalty area 2 mins after coming in for a scoring opportunity (but ASM didn’t pass or he would have scored). His off the ball movement is great.  
 

He’s 100% taking Willock’s spot. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:


That won’t work.
 

Any midfield needs at least one holding midfielder, and that’s someone who stays deep all the time to support the defenders while giving those sweet passes forward. That’s Shelvey. Joe and Willock are more of box to box or ball winning midfielders. They are the roaming type. Bruno is also a roaming type, and having 3 roaming midfielders at the same time will simply leave you exposed at the back very easily. Won’t happen. 
 

Not only did Bruno play as the roaming/box to box type with Lyon and Brazil, you can see how we found him inside Everton’s penalty area 2 mins after coming in for a scoring opportunity (but ASM didn’t pass or he would have scored). His off the ball movement is great.  
 

He’s 100% taking Willock’s spot. 

 

 

 

Of the 3 'roaming' midfielders you mention, I reckon only 1 of them has there nous and tool set to play the holding role though. And that's Bruno. May not be the best utilisation of his full talents but I reckon he could do it. Not advocating it just saying I reckon he could do it. 

Might need to time to acclimatise which I'm sure is what EH is doing right now with him.

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I've been quite vocal about accepting Howe not changing the midfield in its current form, but if one of them has a below par performance I'd like to see Bruno in there without any chance of redemption like :lol: Fuck waiting for suspension or injury.

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Howe has planned to ease him in and that decision has been a good one. We've won both games in which he's been on the bench. He'll come into the side eventually, can see it being at West Ham tbh, we've yet to have an away fixture with him available. Will help us look after the ball a lot more. 

 

 

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I personally would start him but I don't have to manage that squad so totally understand why Howe would stick with the same three that have helped us win 3 in a row 

 

It's a shame we got the injuries we did as I'm sure he would have gotten a lot more minutes if there wasn't the risk of going down to 10 men for a large period of the game

 

I don't think he'll start and barring a similar set of injuries I think he'll get at least 30 minutes 

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*difficult, Bruno. Fucking hell. Just stick him in the reserves already.

 

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But seriously. :aww: Get the feeling personality played a big part in the kind of players we targeted this January. All seem to have such a great attitude. 

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In his six or so minutes of play, Bruno has twice fed ASM into good situations with passes that were delivered quickly and accurately. I'm dying to see more of him.

 

But I'm now accepting of Howe's reasoning. If he'd instantly pitched in all five of the newcomers, he'd have given the message to the others that they're a bit rubbish. We're going to have to rely on those players to turn in performances at various stages, so their morale and sense of being part of things is important.

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13 hours ago, Solitude20 said:


That won’t work.
 

Any midfield needs at least one holding midfielder, and that’s someone who stays deep all the time to support the defenders while giving those sweet passes forward. That’s Shelvey. Joe and Willock are more of box to box or ball winning midfielders. They are the roaming type. Bruno is also a roaming type, and having 3 roaming midfielders at the same time will simply leave you exposed at the back very easily. Won’t happen. 
 

Not only did Bruno play as the roaming/box to box type with Lyon and Brazil, you can see how we found him inside Everton’s penalty area 2 mins after coming in for a scoring opportunity (but ASM didn’t pass or he would have scored). His off the ball movement is great.  
 

He’s 100% taking Willock’s spot. 

 

 

 


That takes us to 3 goal threats. The front three. If that’s really Bruno’s game then it’d probably be Joelinton who’d have to drop out. Willock is more likely to score a few and by the sounds of it, Bruno does what Joelinton does.

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From what I have seen of his play (online) and analysis of his style, in terms of NUFC comparisons, he seems like a cross between GiGi and Nobby. I think through no fault of his own, Joelinton may give way (or be moved to replace Willock—who I think is contributing less at the moment). 

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I've just never agreed with the argument that you should never change a winning team, think its a bit of a small team mindset. All the good teams change and rotate as each opposing team poses different challenges which different players might be more suited to deal with. West Ham are different to Everton and Villa with a better midfield I see no problem what so ever dropping some one to start Bruno, especially as we've all got to be pretty confident in him being the best midfielder at the club.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said:

I've just never agreed with the argument that you should never change a winning team, think its a bit of a small team mindset. All the good teams change and rotate as each opposing team poses different challenges which different players might be more suited to deal with. West Ham are different to Everton and Villa with a better midfield I see no problem what so ever dropping some one to start Bruno, especially as we've all got to be pretty confident in him being the best midfielder at the club.

 

But you still wanted Bruno to play against both Everton and Villa :lol: 

 

I find the "don't change a winning team" mindset about as solid as the "you play your best players" mindset. Based on what I've seen so far, I prefer the "manager knows best" mindset.

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Not sure why Trippier can displace our RB, Targett can displace our LB, etc

But our biggest signing cannot displace Shelvey

 

I do think we have done the right thing up to now, but sooner or later you need to start playing the guy - even if just under the guise of "rotation"

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I thin Bruno will come in now. Howe has shown some big balls to persist with the current middle men and thankfully, it's paid dividends.

 

But we have a small buffer now, and can probably allow a little leeway with the selection as it isn't MUST WIN (yes I know we aren't safe, but them two games have allowed a little respite)

 

Think he would've got more minutes before now had we not put in such resolute performances against two good sides.

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