Bruno Guimarães

[Smal]

He really needs to step up in the next two games. Games like today's are the ones you expect someone like him to be able to control - put his foot on the ball and slow the game down a bit. He can do it with his quality but he wasn't close sadly.

[Sempiternal]

I get the ankle injury but some

of His decision making has been so weird, like that shot he took that was never on in a million years 

[Holloway]

Has been robbed of possession in deep,dangerous positions way beyond he's playing on one leg nonsense. If he wants to be one of the elite ( which he definitely can do),he needs to  eradicate it 

[The College Dropout]

17 minutes ago, Sempiternal said:

I get the ankle injury but some

of His decision making has been so weird, like that shot he took that was never on in a million years 

Aye it’s the decision making for me. It’s been so bad. He’s forcing passes too much.  He needs to be the one adding composure and class to the midfield and he’s not doing it. 
 

Ankle must not help. But it’s the decisions that are bad. 

[Sempiternal]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Aye it’s the decision making for me. It’s been so bad. He’s forcing passes too much.  He needs to be the one adding composure and class to the midfield and he’s not doing it. 
 

Ankle must not help. But it’s the decisions that are bad. 

Yeah that’s the thing, he didn’t even need to be brilliant today, Leeds midfield is really really bad, just take control of the game, slow it down. And for whatever reason he’s not doing it 

[toon25]

This season will be massive for him in terms of experience in these sort of high pressure situations.

 

He'll grow as a result. 

[NUFC]

Just saw a stat in the Athletic, Bruno has lost the ball 37 times in the last 3 games (or over 12 times per game) compared to his usual just over 8 per game.

 

Fatigue or playing through a knackered ankle probably contributing to this

[joeyt]

Injury or not, moving him away from being the deepest midfielder yesterday was really strange

[TRon]

18 hours ago, NUFC said:

Just saw a stat in the Athletic, Bruno has lost the ball 37 times in the last 3 games (or over 12 times per game) compared to his usual just over 8 per game.

 

Fatigue or playing through a knackered ankle probably contributing to this

 

He's started trapping the ball with his studs last few games and rolling it to give himself some space or maybe move the ball away from the opposition press. It worked initially, but seems like players are spotting it now and catching him while he takes that extra touch.

 

I don't know if this is injury related, but he is definitely getting caught more. Doesn't help that he looks far more isolated since Longstaff has been out. Doesn't help that Joelinton has looked a bit tired recently and seems to be slightly off as well.

[JonBez comesock]

Playing with an injury to help the team 

 

Legend - Love him 

 

Easy to see he is not his best , but he is still digging deep to get us ‘over the line’

[Slim]

1 hour ago, JonBez comesock said:

Playing with an injury to help the team 

 

Legend - Love him 

 

Easy to see he is not his best , but he is still digging deep to get us ‘over the line’

Howe said in his press conferences before his ankle is fine.  Prob telling fibs

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

Is there any actual tangible evidence that he's carrying an injury, just seem like an excuse to protect a fan favourite, not a chance Longstaff would get the same excuse peddled for him.

 

He's been excellent for us and is a big reason why we're still in this league and pushing for top 4 but he's been poor for a while and Howe needs to find a way to get him back to his best.

 

Not sure I buy the burnout excuse either, apart from the cup run, which he missed one of the games due to suspension he's had no extra games outside the premier league schedule, there's no excuse for fatigue or burnout IMO.

 

I'd back him to get back to his best but he deserves the small bit of criticism that's coming his way currently.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

Is there any actual tangible evidence that he's carrying an injury, just seem like an excuse to protect a fan favourite, not a chance Longstaff would get the same excuse peddled for him.

 

He's been excellent for us and is a big reason why we're still in this league and pushing for top 4 but he's been poor for a while and Howe needs to find a way to get him back to his best.

 

Not sure I buy the burnout excuse either, apart from the cup run, which he missed one of the games due to suspension he's had no extra games outside the premier league schedule, there's no excuse for fatigue or burnout IMO.

 

I'd back him to get back to his best but he deserves the small bit of criticism that's coming his way currently.

There's no excuse for fatigue, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening to many in the team.

 

None of them have played at this high level for so long. Even Tripps has not played this many league games since the Burnley days.

 

Said in another thread. Partey has looked cooked for a few weeks now. He's not played tons of games, but he's physically shot. It's the intensity of the league. It took Rodri 2 seasons to get up to speed. And even then half City matches he can stroll about on the ball.

[Kid Icarus]

He's said himself that he's carrying an ankle injury and that it's pissing him off 

[80]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

He's said himself that he's carrying an ankle injury and that it's pissing him off 

Plus he was pictured wearing a compression garment on his ankle weeks after that while meeting fans on a day off. There's no doubt he's carrying a problem.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by 80

[TheBrownBottle]

I don't think he's been the same player post-WC break, and unfortunately the decline in form has now arrived at a nadir; it is over half a year since he scored, for example, even though he has had plenty of shooting positions in that time.  I do think he's getting caught on the ball more as teams and coaches have thought of ways to handle him during that break - as mentioned earlier, the rolling the ball with the studs to buy space is getting caught out more, as is short burst driving the ball too.  This is a compliment to his talent; it is less of an issue if we have other midfielders of his undoubted skill level then it would free up space and time for him.

 

We'll know he's injured if he runs straight off for surgery at the end of the season - but I just don't see someone like Howe playing him if he isn't fit; gegenpress doesn't work if you're carrying players, particularly in centre midfield.  I just think the lad's form has dipped, and teams have some coping mechanisms to deal with him.  He's still an excellent footballer, so I don't doubt he'll hit form again - but some are probably starting to see why he's an excellent midfielder rather than a world class one.

[Conjo]

Did I just imagine that he has confirmed in an interview that he needs treatment on his ankle when the season is over? Think opposing teams knows it as well. Been a few times now where they've gone in on his ankle intentionally to wind him up, and it seems to have worked a few times where he's been really angry and/or frustrated by some tackles, probably out of anxiety of making things worse.

[Geordie Ahmed]

17 minutes ago, Conjo said:

Did I just imagine that he has confirmed in an interview that he needs treatment on his ankle when the season is over? Think opposing teams knows it as well. Been a few times now where they've gone in on his ankle intentionally to wind him up, and it seems to have worked a few times where he's been really angry and/or frustrated by some tackles, probably out of anxiety of making things worse.

He said the following after the Brentford game

 

“I twisted my ankle in the warm-up,” revealed Guimaraes. “It is good to have a full week (without a game) now because I will get some time to rest.  

 

“I don’t know if I can say it, but it is p*****g me off with my ankle. I need to get some rest and see at the end of the season what we can do, but I am not happy with my ankle.

 

“I got some pills (painkillers), but the first half was very tough for me. I think I improved my game and helped my team-mates to get the result.”

[KDT]

Sell him & buy Ward-Prowse.

[iwantcurlyhairtoo]

I think his form is a combination of a few things. Injury. Exhaustion. And other teams! They're clearly targeting him in a 'Stop Bruno, stop Newcastle' kind of way

[huss9]

Eddie's had us training like we play.

so with such a restricted squad, especially in midfield  we were always going to hit a wall.

[The College Dropout]

If he has an ankle issue, he cannot train at full intensity. It will be light workload + matches.

[sushimonster85]

I think in an ideal world they'd have been hoping to have secured CL if not by now, then certainly on Thursday, and Bruno could have gone off to get this ankle issue sorted and had the maximum time to heal up before pre-season. 

[Nine]

After the summer we need him back bossing it from his #6 position, he is the key to us ticking going forward. His vision, range of passing and when he’s fully fit he’s very press resistant on top of that.. those qualities just are not easily replaceable in that position. 
 

The talk of switching to a DM there, I can’t see it and I was pondering that idea up myself up until the WC. We lose so much more than we’d gain by doing that imo, with Bruno at 8 you’d just get less from his best qualities. 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by Nine

[Smal]

I think you'd get the best of Bruno as the more progressive half of a double pivot. So, like:

 

Bruno - New #6

Maddison - Willock - Joelinton

Isak

 

This is a midfield and attack with a structure that has control written all over it. We've missed control in a lot of key games this season despite how well we've done.