Stottie Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Great post HawK. The team definitely needs more goals to sustainably push on, but I'm unsure whether LB is of immediate concern as the place to get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I've just deleted a post and, on reflection I should've left it in. Along the lines of..... "As likeable as Targett is, he's no Irving Nattress..............#oldbastard" Posted it then remembered. Yeah, Niall, he's no Irving fucking Nattress because Nattress was a fucking RIGHT back you cunt. Obvs, said in my head like cos she's still in bed ?️?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Offensively Targett is fine, it's certainly not a glaring detriment to his game as a 'traditional fullback' or whatever they are these days. Modern marauding fullbacks are an obvious area managers can exploit and it would be handy to have someone like Targett around for when we're inevitably getting rinsed down the wings in some games. Or for matches when shutting out their right side makes more sense than trying to run riot down our left. I know Dummett can fill that role but Targett does everything he does and more, so it's canny irritating, and I've noshed Dummett off for years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Nicked from Twitter. Am I missing something here or does this show that Targett is overall the solid option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Surprisingly quiet this. Shouldn't he be back in Villa by now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Probably on holiday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 We had the best two full backs in the country then, Nattress and Kennedy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Nicked from Twitter. Am I missing something here or does this show that Targett is overall the solid option? Let's have a look at what you could have won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, HTT II said: Let's have a look at what you could have won ……aaaaaand Brucey’s special priiiiize! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Nicked from Twitter. Am I missing something here or does this show that Targett is overall the solid option? https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&comp_type=by_type&dom_lg=1&spec_comps=big_5&player_id1=ed9f7cfe&p1yrfrom=2021-2022&player_id2=e514ab62&p2yrfrom=2021-2022 Lodi started less than half of the games he was involved in so it's difficult to gauge (Target player 87 minutes per match, Lodi 41), but watching both of them it's clear Lodi is a much bigger attacking threat. Even so if you click 'Toggle per 90' above each of the tables Lodi is still close, or better, offensively in many areas despite his data per game being essentially halved (this can be a possitive or a negative but I imagine players playing a full 90 will get more actions per minute than one being used sporadically - unless they're a super sub). If I've gotten this wrong then by all means someone who actually knows what they're talking about correct me Edited June 2, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 18:00, HawK said: As someone who fondly wore Enriqué 3 on the back of our Championship banana-top, I think this lad has been the best left-back we've had in my living memory. Make of that what you will, i.e. our quality in that position over the years really hasn't been great, featuring such gems as Babayaro and Dummett as regulars. I only remember back as far as Beresford and then Pearce, but I don't recall any of our left backs as good off the ball offensively, or as good at striking the ball as Targett. Bernard and Domi were decent, but they were ball carriers rather than playmakers, and defensively they were average. I can't easily compare Targett to anyone we've had in that position before, other than my old favourite player Enriqué defensively. Offensively he's been a revelation, let alone the added threat from set pieces he brings. With him as our left back, we were in Champions League form without even having a decent striker. Then there's his personality, which is absolutely spot on. I always felt Robbie Elliott was better than all of them, tbh. Cracking left foot too - scored more from full back than anyone I've seen in B&W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I will repeat until beaten with a shitty stick: Lodi is no great shakes, have watched him carefully since we were linked and he hasn´t had a good season in La Liga. Can´t say before this year, although he did play a few times as centre back (gives cover I suppoose). Would rather go for the man city full back, or nick tariq lamtey (does he play left hand side?)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, HTT II said: Let's have a look at what you could have won Stay out of the black and into the red, nothing in this game for two in a bed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: I've just deleted a post and, on reflection I should've left it in. Along the lines of..... "As likeable as Targett is, he's no Irving Nattress..............#oldbastard" Posted it then remembered. Yeah, Niall, he's no Irving fucking Nattress because Nattress was a fucking RIGHT back you cunt. Obvs, said in my head like cos she's still in bed ?️?? Still works though, he's a full back and I totally get what you mean. (Could have said Alan Kennedy though) #anotheroldbastard. Edited June 2, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, 54 said: Those three and then focus on quality right winger and central midfielder and I'd be a very happy guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Those three and then focus on quality right winger and central midfielder and I'd be a very happy guy. + another cf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Disciplined, hard-working, reliable, excellent defensively (which is rare), and available for a reasonable fee. Hard to say no, honestly. Get him, work on the rest of the team for now and get someone better in 2-3 seasons and hopefully by then he will be more than happy to be a back-up in a much better team. If there is a clearly better option now, then why not, but I cannot think of any, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, r0cafella said: + another cf. It depends on the midfielder and right winger. If we signed Paqueta or Diaby for example, we wouldn't need another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 If we buy an "attacking" left back we would surely need good back up and/or a good defensive alternative like Targett. He has never let us down all season and gives =>7+ performances every weekend. Get him signed!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I always felt Robbie Elliott was better than all of them, tbh. Cracking left foot too - scored more from full back than anyone I've seen in B&W Aye he was decent, never felt he was one of our stronger players in our team at the time, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, HawK said: Aye he was decent, never felt he was one of our stronger players in our team at the time, though. brilliant first time, awful when he came back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, HawK said: Aye he was decent, never felt he was one of our stronger players in our team at the time, though. He wasn't one of our best players - but I was always of the opinion that he was better than Beresford. When Dalglish finally gave him a run at LB post-Keegan, he scored six or seven from LB in a dozen or so games. Dalglish then did the most Dalglish thing ever, and sold him for buttons whilst spunking nearly 5m on Pistone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Elliott scored those goals from LM and LCM mainly in the run-in. Ginola was the one he replaced in the XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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