Dr Jinx Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 22:58, Gawalls said: I also put him in the same bracket to be honest even though his goals are higher Expand Pound shop Saint-Maximin, some of the skill, some of the pace etc. Aside from making up numbers I can’t see how he would fit into the description of players who can come in and make a difference as Howe mentioned. Maddison of course fits that profile but not this lad though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 19:22, HaydnNUFC said: Expand So much for wanting to prove himself in the Premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) On 01/08/2022 at 22:40, Gawalls said: What’s bizarre about that story is we’re negotiating as we won’t pay the amount - the fact that its only 17.5m makes me think Maddison and Harrison were always higher up the priority list and he is being kept on the hook just in case. Expand Yea the price is already an Decent good price and should be payed and get the player ready on the bench for forrest ? Edited August 2, 2022 by snakzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 23:02, Mikky said: With all these Werner links, I would love for us to sign Depay - can play in all 3 positions up top - surely we could negotiate some sort of deal Expand Didnt he reject us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Has to be something non football going on with cornet not being snapped up at that price. Admittedly I didn’t watch a great deal of Burnley last season but his numbers are excellent for £17.5m. Scored 9 and assisted 2 last year in a relegated Burnley side. Scored 6 & assisted 2 in 23 champions league games at Lyon. Equally comfortable on the left or right and can cover at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 His attitude was pretty shitty on relegation. He asked for his loan to end despite signing for them on a transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 07:04, La Parka said: His attitude was pretty shitty on relegation. He asked for his loan to end despite signing for them on a transfer. Expand That's not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 06:53, BoSelecta said: Has to be something non football going on with cornet not being snapped up at that price. Admittedly I didn’t watch a great deal of Burnley last season but his numbers are excellent for £17.5m. Scored 9 and assisted 2 last year in a relegated Burnley side. Scored 6 & assisted 2 in 23 champions league games at Lyon. Equally comfortable on the left or right and can cover at LB. Expand He’s had a lot of interest from promoted sides and Everton. I reckon he wants to pick his next move more carefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 22:56, Dr Jinx said: I don’t see Cornet as an upgrade on Almiron or Fraser, certainly not Wilson. Expand Almiron has scored the same number of goals Cornet has in the PL. It's just taken him 4 seasons to Cornet's 1. I'll never understand how much grace this lad gets from the fans on here. He's done little to deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 22:58, Gawalls said: I also put him in the same bracket to be honest even though his goals are higher Expand Well does that not mean he’s an upgrade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 07:19, The College Dropout said: Almiron has scored the same number of goals Cornet has in the PL. It's just taken him 4 seasons to Cornet's 1. I'll never understand how much grace this lad gets from the fans on here. He's done little to deserve it. Expand He's extremely likeable, he plays with a smile, he plays with passion, he chases every ball, he puts his foot in when needed and right at this moment in time he's putting out respectable numbers (in pre season admittedly). By all means judge him on previous seasons stats and performances as that is all we can do for now but you can't seriously be blind to the reasons that fans have taken to him and are therfore giving him some benefit of the doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 19:48, HaydnNUFC said: Link? Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 07:19, The College Dropout said: Almiron has scored the same number of goals Cornet has in the PL. It's just taken him 4 seasons to Cornet's 1. I'll never understand how much grace this lad gets from the fans on here. He's done little to deserve it. Expand Oh do you not like Almiron? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 During his time here he's shown that he's a good lad and a fairly shite footballer at this level. Hope he proves me wrong this season. Last chance saloon and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Remember seeing Cornet early on last season and thinking he looked a really good player. Seemed to fade as the season went on but that could be down to being surrounded by the shit he was playing with at Burnley. Think he would be a really good squad addition and covers alot of positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 07:34, Mazzy said: He's extremely likeable, he plays with a smile, he plays with passion, he chases every ball, he puts his foot in when needed and right at this moment in time he's putting out respectable numbers (in pre season admittedly). By all means judge him on previous seasons stats and performances as that is all we can do for now but you can't seriously be blind to the reasons that fans have taken to him and are therfore giving him some benefit of the doubt. Expand None of this has anything to do with footballing ability. You have people saying "Cornet is not an upgrade on Almiron". Based on what? It sounds like you like his smile more. We've had hard-workers in the past with little end product (Sissoko, Ritchie, Milner) and they got plenty of stick on here for lacking quality. I've no problem with people liking the lad - as a lad. But to suggest his ability is similar to Cornet..... there's no basis for that train of thought. There's little to even suggest he's a PL level player. It's been a colossal waste of £30m. Maybe because he's Rafa's lad he gets even more grace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 07:19, The College Dropout said: Almiron has scored the same number of goals Cornet has in the PL. It's just taken him 4 seasons to Cornet's 1. I'll never understand how much grace this lad gets from the fans on here. He's done little to deserve it. Expand I think he gets grace for 2 reasons. Firstly, the attitude and effort that he puts in. But secondly there's nothing inherently wrong in hoping your (one-time) record signing comes good. I'd add in a third that he's largely played out of position too. He's just not a right winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 19:00, relámpago blanco said: Bellotti, Grillitsch, Maddison and Diaby and I think it's been a good window. Expand Wouldn't mind Grillitsch. His agent was apparently fucking round a few teams this window asking for daft money after deals were mostly agreed. He's dumped the agent now though so might be worth a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 08:38, Chris_R said: I think he gets grace for 2 reasons. Firstly, the attitude and effort that he puts in. But secondly there's nothing inherently wrong in hoping your (one-time) record signing comes good. I'd add in a third that he's largely played out of position too. He's just not a right winger. Expand He's being discussed now as a wide player vs Cornet. James Milner put in tremendous graft and never got this grace as an English teenager. I guess that's a good thing. I'm not suggesting people give him stick or owt. It's the rating his ability on the pitch that just doesn't make any sense. He's expected to start as a RW this season or a LW. And people are suggesting we would be not better off with Cornet in the team instead. Grace isn't even the word. Undeserved faith in his ability as a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 If the stated release clause exists, Cornet will definitely move this window. I think the delay is the player waiting to see what his best option is. He'll know that it may be as a fallback choice for a team pursuing other players. I quite like the idea of stringing Cornet along to deadline day, and seeing how Almiron does in the first few games played in anger. Give him one last chance to prove he's been unBruced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 08:37, The College Dropout said: None of this has anything to do with footballing ability. You have people saying "Cornet is not an upgrade on Almiron". Based on what? It sounds like you like his smile more. We've had hard-workers in the past with little end product (Sissoko, Ritchie, Milner) and they got plenty of stick on here for lacking quality. I've no problem with people liking the lad - as a lad. But to suggest his ability is similar to Cornet..... there's no basis for that train of thought. There's little to even suggest he's a PL level player. It's been a colossal waste of £30m. Maybe because he's Rafa's lad he gets even more grace. Expand Almiron gets incredible levels of stick on this forum. Are you going to pretend that you're the only one criticising him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 08:38, Chris_R said: I think he gets grace for 2 reasons. Firstly, the attitude and effort that he puts in. But secondly there's nothing inherently wrong in hoping your (one-time) record signing comes good. I'd add in a third that he's largely played out of position too. He's just not a right winger. Expand Also think it's worth giving him a chance to see if some direction from Howe can make the difference. Probably a long shot, but he does have the tools in his locker to get double figures if he's encouraged to get in goalscoring positions more regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Hypothetically speaking - if we're negotiating with Leicester, what would people think about a cheeky loan bid for Ayoze as the RW/ST cover we need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 09:29, Raconteur said: Hypothetically speaking - if we're negotiating with Leicester, what would people think about a cheeky loan bid for Ayoze as the RW/ST cover we need? Expand Not for me im afraid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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