cubaricho Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, reefatoon said: We had the meanest defence in the league, don’t think we need a player who’s sole role is to just sit in. Much prefer a midfield three who cover all over the place, doing and sharing the workload. Plus, Bruno has to be the centre point of that three for me. Absolutely this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: I'm hoping everyone takes advantage of Chelsea since they are obviously desperate. Big losses for Pulisic and Havertz on the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1665444345980530690?s=46 The sort of goal Joelinton should score 12-15 a season being harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We then didn’t keep a clean sheet for around 17 games ? All our midfielders are attack minded, just think we would benefit from someone more defensive in there. Pretty much every successful club plays with one. We didn’t keep clean sheets, but apart from the Aston Villa game, we weren’t shipping goals in either. Was mainly just the solitary goal. I’d say we looked pretty successful last year not playing with one. For me it’s just too much of a disciplined/limited roll. Eddie has the players each doing so much more than one solitary focused job. Love watching our midfield all over the place doing what they do, it’s a joy to behold. For me, hopefully we sign more midfielders in that style. Strong, physical, energetic skilful players who can get up and down. Edited June 4, 2023 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, reefatoon said: We didn’t keep clean sheets but apart from the Aston Villa game, we weren’t shipping goals in either. Was mainly just the solitary goal. Id say we looked pretty successful last year not playing with one. For me it’s just too much of a disciplined/limited roll. Eddie has the players each doing so much more than one solitary focused job. Love watching our midfield all over the place doing what they do, it’s a joy to behold. For me, hopefully we sign more midfielders in that style. Strong, physical, energetic skilful players who can get up and down. Also taking a player out of the midfield three to “just sit” is taking a player out of our insane press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Still think we need an out and out DM personally. I wouldn't be opposed to it, just I think we'll go for another all-rounder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 There's definetly merit in having a number six, most clubs competing for serious honours play with one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: Also taking a player out of the midfield three to “just sit” is taking a player out of our insane press. Yep totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: There's definetly merit in having a number six, most clubs competing for serious honours play with one. We have been quite unique this season in our style of play, you don’t see many teams playing our way. Wouldn’t surprise me to see other teams jumping on the band wagon and trying it, forfeiting a dedicated holding midfielder. Edited June 4, 2023 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 We don’t necessarily need an out-and-out destroyer style dm but someone with a bit of strength, physically and who can win the ball back in midfield would really help the balance imo. In saying that, it’d also be nice to have another player (other than Bruno) with a bit of vision and passing ability. In an ideal world we’d get a player who can do both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: I'm hoping everyone takes advantage of Chelsea since they are obviously desperate. Big losses for Pulisic and Havertz on the way. Pulisic... not only is he injury prone but he seems to have gotten shit too unfortunately, see pic. Havertz could definintely be rehabilitated and "Howed" into something special, he's been mismanaged for a while and he's still young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, midds said: Honest question - who is making all of these signings for Chelsea? What's the procedure for targeting/scouting/negotiating all of these players every window? How much input does the boss actually have and is Poch calling the shots as he's rebuilding 'his' squad? It's about as disorganised and random as you can get, there's no pattern whatsoever, it's like a 9 year old playing monopoly for the first time, just buying fucking everything they land on. It's embarrassing in it's lack of thought and strategy. It doesn't seem to matter though does it? The game is rigged in their favour, if they failed to spend their way to success in the last couple of seasons, they can just keep hoovering up the best players and trust it will stick. Not sure it works like that in reality though, a club needs to have an identity, and I'm fucked if I know what Chelsea's is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, reefatoon said: We didn’t keep clean sheets, but apart from the Aston Villa game, we weren’t shipping goals in either. Was mainly just the solitary goal. I’d say we looked pretty successful last year not playing with one. For me it’s just too much of a disciplined/limited roll. Eddie has the players each doing so much more than one solitary focused job. Love watching our midfield all over the place doing what they do, it’s a joy to behold. For me, hopefully we sign more midfielders in that style. Strong, physical, energetic skilful players who can get up and down. 19 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Also taking a player out of the midfield three to “just sit” is taking a player out of our insane press. We don’t play a high press anymore. We stopped that when we went on that dry patch at the start of the year. After which our defence started to look very exposed and started making schoolboy errors in pretty much every game, leading to conceding daft goals like clockwork. We went from the best defence in the league to an average one. It seems patently obvious to me that if we continue playing the more positive style of the second half of last season (which was more fun to watch) then a genuine defensive midfielder would be a positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Another cross cum goal by gabi veiga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Raphinha also looked top class whilst on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We don’t play a high press anymore. We stopped that when we went on that dry patch at the start of the year. After which our defence started to look very exposed and started making schoolboy errors in pretty much every game, leading to conceding daft goals like clockwork. We went from the best defence in the league to an average one. It seems patently obvious to me that if we continue playing the more positive style of the second half of last season (which was more fun to watch) then a genuine defensive midfielder would be a positive. We definetly do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: We definetly do. We play a pressing game but not the same as what we played first half of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Thats absolutely outrageous from Veiga Spoiler If he meant it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 So what is it then lads? Do we play a high press or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We don’t play a high press anymore. I’m going to have to disagree with that. That’s all the pundits talk about when talking about us and it’s clear as day to me. We’re all over teams. Like Tottenham and Arsenal near the end of the season. They had no idea what was happening and were wholly unprepared for our high press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We don’t play a high press anymore. We stopped that when we went on that dry patch at the start of the year. After which our defence started to look very exposed and started making schoolboy errors in pretty much every game, leading to conceding daft goals like clockwork. We went from the best defence in the league to an average one. It seems patently obvious to me that if we continue playing the more positive style of the second half of last season (which was more fun to watch) then a genuine defensive midfielder would be a positive. That's not right like, we were conceding far fewer goals when we sat back. We were scoring less as well, so swings and roundabouts, but it feels like we are evolving regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We play a pressing game but not the same as what we played first half of the season There was a good piece of analysis recently that showed we still high press pretty religiously, but rather than to force a turn over, it's to force the opposition downfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, cubaricho said: I’m going to have to disagree with that. That’s all the pundits talk about when talking about us and it’s clear as day to me. We’re all over teams. Like Tottenham and Arsenal near the end of the season. They had no idea what was happening and were wholly unprepared for our high press. We still play it against ‘big’ teams where we don’t expect to dominate on the ball. But we don’t at all against lesser sides, as it is completely ineffective. There’s a more methodical style with pressure building from possession. The games against good sides at the tail end of the season - Arsenal, Spurs, Villa - all illustrate my point re how exposed the defence has looked. We blew Spurs away but conceded a stupid y pressured goal. Villa overrun our midfield and exposed the lack of pace at the back - if you wanted a blueprint for beating us, that was it. Arsenal hit us with sucker punches. A CDM potentially changes that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, cubaricho said: I’m going to have to disagree with that. That’s all the pundits talk about when talking about us and it’s clear as day to me. We’re all over teams. Like Tottenham and Arsenal near the end of the season. They had no idea what was happening and were wholly unprepared for our high press. Yep exactly. Brighton couldn’t hardly get out of their own box too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We still play it against ‘big’ teams where we don’t expect to dominate on the ball. But we don’t at all against lesser sides, as it is completely ineffective. There’s a more methodical style with pressure building from possession. The games against good sides at the tail end of the season - Arsenal, Spurs, Villa - all illustrate my point re how exposed the defence has looked. We blew Spurs away but conceded a stupid y pressured goal. Villa overrun our midfield and exposed the lack of pace at the back - if you wanted a blueprint for beating us, that was it. Arsenal hit us with sucker punches. A CDM potentially changes that. Villa are a genuinely good side, with a terrific manager. That was the one game I was confident Liverpool would drop points as well, and they really shouldn't have got any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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