sushimonster85 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, STM said: As I've said before, nothing will happen before the 20th of January IMO. Agree with this. Once we get to the end of Jan Leicester really do have a big call to make with Tielemans. Will be their last chance to get any sort of fee for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) The line seems to be that wage bill v turnover is too high, no idea if that's at all correct. The summer after next will be interesting, with so many players out of contract. Edited January 6, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The line seems to be that the way bill v turnover is too high, no idea if that's at all correct. The summer after next will be interesting, with so many players out of contract. The club really need to start getting players off the books - Ashley re-signed a lot of the current squad on stupidly long contracts for some comfortable wages. Our current wage bill has been too high vs turnover for some time - and we’ve been told since day one that the club’s books have to balance and FFP will be adhered to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Hate this weekly feeling Howe gives me that we’re genuinely skint and won’t sign anybody ever again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I think I’d rather have Varela than Tielemans. Mainly because Varela is much more dynamic and physical. He would allow us to push Bruno a bit forward as well as strengthen us defensively and offers more technical ability than Longstaff even if different players and positions. Then add someone more creative and offensive to go with Bruno and Varela or similar. I like Tielemans but I feel that if 2/3 is Bruno and Tielemans then we might need more legs in there when off the ball. I’m all for Tielemans too, just my preference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 He’s consistent with it, when it comes to transfers just know he’s playing his role and don’t read too much into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I think we'll sign a center mid as cover/rotation. I see it as a need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) Cover/rotation kind of CM is pointless. Because once we do sign a quality starting CM we will have too many “average” player on our books. Sign quality and let players like Longstaff/Willock to name two, to become squad players. Whether it’s a Bruno aged player or a 20 year old top quality one they have to be starting players or near enough it at least and then become starting players because of their undoubted talent. Even if eased in in the beginning. Edited January 6, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 We're still so reliant on the class of the starting 11 to do the business week-in, week-out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I didn’t think we would sign anyone this month and still don’t especially based of Howe’s comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I’m very much for the saying “buy it nice or buy it twice”. This doesn’t necessarily mean that they have to cost a lot. More about not signing players for the sake of it and finding the right ones. Thinking both short and long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I didn’t think we would sign anyone this month and still don’t especially based of Howe’s comments. Says same every window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Slim said: Says same every window This is a completely different window to the last 2, the previous ones we had no real choice but to spend. We don’t need to do that this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: This is a completely different window to the last 2, the previous ones we had no real choice but to spend. We don’t need to do that this window. It depends what you interpret as don’t need to. His first window we had to spend or we were going down. the second window we had to spend as the team needed to be strengthened, but we didn’t go mental. It was to build and go for top 8. currently we are overachieving by any metric anyone had at the start of the season. a few injuries to key players and we are likely in a bit of trouble. the discussions now will be, if we want to seriously keep top 4 and seriously go for one of the cups, then we have to spend. don’t spend and we need a lot of luck injury wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ikon said: Cover/rotation kind of CM is pointless. Because once we do sign a quality starting CM we will have too many “average” player on our books. Sign quality and let players like Longstaff/Willock to name two, to become squad players. Whether it’s a Bruno aged player or a 20 year old top quality one they have to be starting players or near enough it at least and then become starting players because of their undoubted talent. Even if eased in in the beginning. This. I've never understood the 'we need to buy cover' as in lower quality players than our first 11 now. Buy first 11 quality and let the squad competition become the cover. Longstaff/Willock would be decent squad players compared to the lack of cover we have now anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) My interpretation of this is we do have a limited spend in mind say under 50m to pick a figure out. We are monitoring and not rushing as there is usually more movement later in the window and if we spend our money now on tweaking the side or buying a backup and say a key member of the starting 11 gets injured we are then bringing summer spending forward limiting spending that window. An finally the budget needed for the summer is very much dependent on the rest of the season missing out or Europe, getting Europe and getting champions league massively changes the "plan" for the summer window. Edited January 6, 2023 by nufcjmc . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 He's certainly not saying in that we won't be spending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: the discussions now will be, if we want to seriously keep top 4 and seriously go for one of the cups, then we have to spend. From all accounts, as much as it a more tightly run ship for leaks these days, it suggests that the owners see CL this season as something that would be a huge bonus, but would be way ahead of schedule. I don't see them seriously risking long term plans/transfer strategy on what something that is still likely a long shot. We're in a great position at the moment. But Man U win their game in hand they go ahead of us. We're not miles clear of Spurs, and Liverpool will go on a run at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mahoneys Tache said: Joelinton wasn’t good enough for us 18 months ago. Almiron wasn’t good enough for us a year ago. Bellamy was bang average before he came to us and SBR got ahold of him. No idea if the rumours are accurate but if they are I expect they have a good rationale for buying him and he’ll only get better here. Them players were already at the club , Bellamy was young and had a lot of potential. We shouldn’t be buying reserves from the team we are competing with for 4th, especially one who will cost like 40 million and isn’t very good anyway. Edited January 6, 2023 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Eddies quotes in the press conference were specifically that any transfer activity would be injury based and he specifically mentioned Shelvey’s injury. If you look at our two big injuries it’s him and Krafth. The noises from the local press are that we want a number 6 and a back up RB which is consistent with what Eddie has said. The local journos seemed to be briefed on the overall strategy but not on targets. Most of our transfer breaks come from the selling club/journos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: From all accounts, as much as it a more tightly run ship for leaks these days, it suggests that the owners see CL this season as something that would be a huge bonus, but would be way ahead of schedule. I don't see them seriously risking long term plans/transfer strategy on what something that is still likely a long shot. We're in a great position at the moment. But Man U win their game in hand they go ahead of us. We're not miles clear of Spurs, and Liverpool will go on a run at some point. If we get those champions league nights back could anyone fix me up with one of those Android sticks I'm not paying BT prices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Stottie said: I think we'll sign a center mid as cover/rotation. I see it as a need. I think we will sign a first team midfielder with Longstaff then becoming the cover/rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I’m going Edson Alvarez signed out the blue. Sombreros in the crowd at Fulham home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: From all accounts, as much as it a more tightly run ship for leaks these days, it suggests that the owners see CL this season as something that would be a huge bonus, but would be way ahead of schedule. I don't see them seriously risking long term plans/transfer strategy on what something that is still likely a long shot. We're in a great position at the moment. But Man U win their game in hand they go ahead of us. We're not miles clear of Spurs, and Liverpool will go on a run at some point. Finishing top four isn't a 'long shot' at all based on bookies odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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