Guest Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pata said: No idea why you look at that list and the conclusion is we are selling ASM. We've just signed Gordon, Almiron has just signed a new deal and Howe loves Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I think ASM is making a huge case for why he should stay. I know he’s riddled with multiple injuries a season, normally for only a few games at a time but he’s shown Howe that he can play more for the team, make better decisions and change his game. He’s never going to be a system player but there’s no one else who can offer what he will. I think he’ll he staying if he can play more games before the end of the season and build on how he’s been playing in the last few games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We've just signed Gordon, Almiron has just signed a new deal and Howe loves Murphy. Almiron deserved a new deal but he turns 30 next season. Howe might love Murphy but he's not stupid, Murphy's ceiling at 28 is nowhere near UCL-level. Edited April 11, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pata said: Almiron deserved a new deal but he turns 30 next season. Howe might love Murphy but he's not stupid, Murphy's ceiling at 28 is nowhere near UCL-level. Do you think we'll sell either of those two? Or Gordon? I know we need depth but I don't see us having a new winger plus Murphy, Almiron, Gordon and Maxi as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Murphys a good squad filler. Plays in numerous positions, runs all day and doesn't kick up a fuss about being a squad player. He'll be involved in our European campaign next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Aye, we’re 3 or 4 windows away from having better options than Murphy as squad players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Do you think we'll sell either of those two? Or Gordon? I know we need depth but I don't see us having a new winger plus Murphy, Almiron, Gordon and Maxi as well. Gordon is not going anywhere. I don’t think 5 wingers is too many and Murphy is fine as a fifth choice but would prefer someone who is a lot younger. Edited April 11, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Have we been linked with anyone new I can YouTube and become and experts on over the next 10 minutes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we're getting another wide man I don't see ASM staying. New winger, Gordon, Almiron, Murphy, Anderson, plus Isak, Joelinton & Willock who can play there. I don't see a gap for him. To me Maxi is the one who offers a bit more creativity and something different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Pata said: Gordon is not going anywhere. I don’t think 5 wingers is too many and Murphy is fine as a fifth choice but would prefer someone who is a lot younger. Murphy is one of 5 players who've played in every PL game for us this season. Pope, Trippier, Burn and Longstaff being the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Fountain said: Murphy is one of 5 players who've played in every PL game for us this season. Pope, Trippier, Burn and Longstaff being the others. That's a pretty incredible stat like. Future quiz question should that still be the case come the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Nobody said: That's a pretty incredible stat like. Future quiz question should that still be the case come the end of the season He's started 10, come on as sub 19 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, The Fountain said: He's started 10, come on as sub 19 times. Started the season as third choice winger and is now fourth choice I guess? And has played in every game, fair play to him man. That and having five players that has played a part in every league game at this late stage of the season is quite incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I'd guess a winger will be high on our list of priorities this summer. If expect ASM and Gordon to be fighting for that spot in our strongest eleven. Nice pair of options IMO. Joelinton or Willock can play there too. Murphy seems an ideal fifth man to me. Can go out and do a reasonable job starting if needed and is clearly valued as a sub to go on and help see out a game. I'd expect the addition to be a left footed player who plays on the right. Diaby probably the ideal signing but there'll be other options out there if he's out if reach. New man and Almiron first two choices for the spot. Gordon could come over and play that side in a pinch but I think in an ideal world we'll have inverted wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Wonder if there's even the slightest chance we might try for Cancelo in the summer? Sounds like he's not wanted by either City or Bayern (for reasons I'll never understand). Doubt City would let him go to Arsenal, after having already sold them Zinchenko last year, and Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool already have Lbs. Again, can't see it happening, but just some thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE28 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nobody said: Wonder if there's even the slightest chance we might try for Cancelo in the summer? Sounds like he's not wanted by either City or Bayern (for reasons I'll never understand). Doubt City would let him go to Arsenal, after having already sold them Zinchenko last year, and Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool already have Lbs. Again, can't see it happening, but just some thoughts. Like with most players of clubs like that it’s hard to see us matching the wages he’d more than likely want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I’d still say in terms of top quality we are still massively lacking in the wide areas. RW has to be one of the main priorities this summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KetsbaiaIsBald Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I think the only way ASM goes is if we sign someone like Zaha on a free. We need someone who can run at a defence when we can’t get behind them. I really hope he stays as he offers such threat and I’d hate to play against him. But he is constantly carrying an injury. Say 40-50 million in and replaced with Zaha keeps that sort of attacking threat and allows further investment else were. Even typing this I’m in two minds whether it would be a good idea. I do love ASM when he’s flying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 8 hours ago, NE28 said: Like with most players of clubs like that it’s hard to see us matching the wages he’d more than likely want Exactly this. We need to realise we can’t/won’t be signing players already on in excess of £200k p/w. Obviously we will increase our wage structure over time, but it’ll be gradual and we won’t be putting anyone on double what anyone else is on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Shak said: I'd guess a winger will be high on our list of priorities this summer. If expect ASM and Gordon to be fighting for that spot in our strongest eleven. Nice pair of options IMO. Joelinton or Willock can play there too. Murphy seems an ideal fifth man to me. Can go out and do a reasonable job starting if needed and is clearly valued as a sub to go on and help see out a game. I'd expect the addition to be a left footed player who plays on the right. Diaby probably the ideal signing but there'll be other options out there if he's out if reach. New man and Almiron first two choices for the spot. Gordon could come over and play that side in a pinch but I think in an ideal world we'll have inverted wingers. Agree on Murphy. Well worth having him as a fifth winger that can play either side, particularly because ASM is so injury prone, and there will be more games to play next season. Also with you on the left footer for the right side to be another option outside of Almiron. Apparently we're high on Nico Williams from Bilbao who fits the mould, and would have brought him in if the Gordon move didn't materialise in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I love reading all these transfer rumours on here, building up my player knowledge again but you know what? I am so looking forward to the summer and seeing who we will sign. I feel like I've got my old excitement back, it's almost like that Christmas magic that you feel when you were a kid. With only a handful of exceptions, I will be be excited about anyone that the new management bring in. I'd say I can't wait for summer but I'm enjoying our season too much. I love feeling this positive about our club again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: Burn and Byrne. Wonder if we've got scouts in the Swiss capital Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: I think the only way ASM goes is if we sign someone like Zaha on a free. We need someone who can run at a defence when we can’t get behind them. I really hope he stays as he offers such threat and I’d hate to play against him. But he is constantly carrying an injury. Say 40-50 million in and replaced with Zaha keeps that sort of attacking threat and allows further investment else were. Even typing this I’m in two minds whether it would be a good idea. I do love ASM when he’s flying. Zaha has hit 30 and has had a long injury lay off this season. I imagine he's going to start being even more injury prone as he ages further, especially playing in Howe's sort of pressing system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: Zaha has hit 30 and has had a long injury lay off this season. I imagine he's going to start being even more injury prone as he ages further, especially playing in Howe's sort of pressing system. I have not really followed him this year to be honest I didn't know that. I guess the age difference is significant (26 vs 30). The only way it would work if he was plan B/C like both Isak and Wilson is plan B. My feeling is Howe want to the team game view and players like both of them are going to struggle, from what we've seen ASM's body cant handle it either. At 26 he does not want to be a plan B, there are a few sound bites already where he's indicated that. Mind you whether Zaha would accept that either is debatable. Edited April 12, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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