Matt1892 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Maddison, Barnes and Gallagher would all improve our starting eleven but it also means you are looking at around £150 million for all of them, without even looking at a left back, centre back and cover for Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, jackflap said: Sell Maxi and proceeds plus 10m for Barnes is a no brainer for me Barnes isn’t even half as good as Maxi. Keep seeing people raving about Barnes, Tielemans, Maddison. If these players were even nearly as good as their reputation they’d be nowhere near that relegation zone. We’ve got to be looking at the European market or wider and emulating the value signings of Botman/Bruno. Thuram, Ugarte and that lad from Red Bull who I can’t remember his name are for more exciting links to me. Players that could peak at a much higher level than the over priced Leicester links. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, St1pe said: Barnes isn’t even half as good as Maxi. Keep seeing people raving about Barnes, Tielemans, Maddison. If these players were even nearly as good as their reputation they’d be nowhere near that relegation zone. We’ve got to be looking at the European market or wider and emulating the value signings of Botman/Bruno. Thuram, Ugarte and that lad from Red Bull who I can’t remember his name are for more exciting links to me. Players that could peak at a much higher level than the over priced Leicester links. Good players get relegated though, Gini was down with us and smashed it at Liveprool. Robertson down with Hull and turned in to one of the worlds best left backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 A player lacks quality because he was relegated or nearly relegated is a myth that continues to prevail amongst English football fans. It applies to managers too, look at the reputation of Howe post-Bournemouth, despite being a technological malfunction away from keeping them up again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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St1pe Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Good players get relegated though, Gini was down with us and smashed it at Liveprool. Robertson down with Hull and turned in to one of the worlds best left backs. Someone brought it up the other day on here. How many players that get relegated go on to be top top players? Not talking youth players but it’s not as common as people make out. Gini was definitely one. Robertson is a good shout but was really young. Pope is another. There isn’t loads though. Those three are the cornerstone of that Leicester side and they’ve been shite. All of them will cost high fees or high wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, St1pe said: Someone brought it up the other day on here. How many players that get relegated go on to be top top players? Not talking youth players but it’s not as common as people make out. Gini was definitely one. Robertson is a good shout but was really young. Pope is another. There isn’t loads though. Those three are the cornerstone of that Leicester side and they’ve been shite. All of them will cost high fees or high wages. Was Maguire another ? Not great at Man Utd but still made a great career. I get what you are saying but Maddison is an elite talent for me regardless if they go down or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) You could arguably compare this Leicester side to the West Ham side that went down in 02-03, with players like Glen Johnson, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Jermain Defoe and Freddie Kanoute in the ranks. Edited May 10, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Not wholly convinced by Barnes, I think if we can get Gordon going he'll be just as good hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: You could arguably compare this Leicester side to the West Ham side that went down in 02-03, with players like Glen Johnson, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Jermain Defoe and Freddie Kanoute in the ranks. I was just thinking of that - but the problem is that Johnson, Cole, Carrick, Defore etc were talented kids; this Leicester side aren't that; Barnes, Maddison and Tielemans are 25, 26 and 26 respectively. Mind you that West Ham side might be one of the best sides relegated - from memory their points tally wasn't atrocious either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: I can definitely see us going for Gallagher in the longstaff role, think we can get better mind. He’d be one of my top targets this summer, I think he’s under rated as hell and a perfect addition to this side all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, joeyt said: Not wholly convinced by Barnes, I think if we can get Gordon going he'll be just as good hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I was just thinking of that - but the problem is that Johnson, Cole, Carrick, Defore etc were talented kids; this Leicester side aren't that; Barnes, Maddison and Tielemans are 25, 26 and 26 respectively. Mind you that West Ham side might be one of the best sides relegated - from memory their points tally wasn't atrocious either. They're still the only team to be relegated with 40 points aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: Are we just writing Gordon off completely now? He's 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They're still the only team to be relegated with 40 points aren't they? I think they might have went down with the highest points tally for a 38-game season - but I'm sure the mackems went down with 40 points in a season. There probably were others - though relegation with 40 points is a rarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They're still the only team to be relegated with 40 points aren't they? Did a quick check - PL-era only: West Ham were the last team to go down with 40+ points - 42 points in 02/03 - which is also a record for a PL 38 game season The mackems (96-97) and Bolton (97-98) both went down with 40 points in 38 game seasons. The record points tally (PL only) for relegation is 49 - Palace in 92/93 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: You could arguably compare this Leicester side to the West Ham side that went down in 02-03, with players like Glen Johnson, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Jermain Defoe and Freddie Kanoute in the ranks. I think that's a bit of a stretch. Johnson, Carrick, Cole & Defoe were much younger than the Leicester players. The Leicester players are supposed to be at the peak of their career now. Hardly a player under 25 in their starting line-ups with exception of Daka & regen guy being 24 and Luke Thomas 21. Johnson was 19, Carrick was 23, Cole was 22, Defoe was 22 respectively when they left West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 No rumour of it....yet... But I'd jump at the chance for Busquets for a couple of years, if he didn't want crazy money. Shit...he'd be better than Rice if it was possible and not just full dreamland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, Aiston said: No rumour of it....yet... But I'd jump at the chance for Busquets for a couple of years, if he didn't want crazy money. Shit...he'd be better than Rice if it was possible and not just full dreamland He’s slower than one legged Bruno, wouldn’t suit our style at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Love Busquets, despite him being one of the OG Shithouse all-timers. His time at the top is gone now though. He could play in Serie A but the PL would be beyond him now I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Leicester have had no PL keeper all season after not replacing Kasper and their defence is awful, not sure how that is Maddison’s fault. For Maddison to put in the numbers he has this season is that team tells you what quality he has. also all this talk of ‘i don’t think he can press’ is nonsense, you can only judge him off what you see but if that’s not Leicesters style of play then obviously you won’t have seen him do it before. I’m sure he’s capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: Love Busquets, despite him being one of the OG Shithouse all-timers. His time at the top is gone now though. He could play in Serie A but the PL would be beyond him now I think Doubt Serie A could/would afford him. Saudi or MLS awaits I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, joeyt said: Are we just writing Gordon off completely now? He's 22 To be fair, you couldn’t find anyone on here that actually rated him before we signed him. He’s got a lot to prove. This isn’t likely at all but ideally I would loan him out next season, I just don’t think he’s ready for us and sitting on the bench won’t help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Think that’s a fairly wild take like. He was the best player for Everton in the previous season and a big part of keeping them up. He’s very versatile, has pace and can strike well off both feet. Technically, I’d have preferred a much better dribbler but I think he’s definitely ready. I also think he’s a perfect player for Howe to shape. Think we’ll really start to see his quality next season though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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