Barnes23 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: I think Eddie is covered on the left. I think Big Joe will be first choice once we bring another midfielder in, and Gordon will be second choice. We need another RW if anything. The problem with that is, at present, Gordon doesn't offer anything close to what ASM can in an attacking sense, and hasn't even been especially diligent in the areas you might expect him to be superior (pressing, positional play) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Anyone significant missing from this in terms of recent links that seem to have some amount of substance to them? I know some are unlikely or maybe even already ruled out (like Phillips and Veiga), but trying to get a sense of the overall picture. AM/CM Dominik Szoboszlai - £60.3M (release clause) James Maddison - ~£40M Rayan Cherki - £40-45M Arda Guler - £17.3M (release clause) CM Kalvin Phillips - £40-45M Romeo Lavia - ~£40M Scott McTominay - £40M? Gabri Veiga - £35M (release clause) LB Kieran Tierney - ~£30M CB Kim Min-Jae - £51M (release clause) Thuram is linked regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Unfortunately we have few saleable assets. Of those we do have, I struggle to think of any who we'd be able to afford to let go (from a team/performance/depth perspective) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 https://twitter.com/MatteMoretto/status/1665809460353196036?s=20 Where's that AC Milan fan that told us Maldini will revolutionise ac Milan and botman is a no brainer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: ...and we know a thing or two about missed opportunities around here. Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Ash2579 said: I think Big Joe will be first choice once we bring another midfielder in I think he is a better CM. If we move him, we have Willock, Bruno, Longstaff as CMs and would need another three unless you count on Anderson for important minutes there and then you still need two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. Technically he's not wrong though, because if we don't get CL the following season then we have definitely missed this early opportunity of offering CL football, if we haven't got in some players that are only looking at joining a club at that level. We're not an established CL team so best to go for the bigger names now, whilst we know we can offer it, which then further increases our chances of being able to offer it down the line imo. Edited June 5, 2023 by BonesJones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. Were they though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? Natural Evolution, next up “Why is this transfer taking so long” panic over purple player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. We had to disrupt the preferred double Joe left side and looked worse for it and Bruno had to play a fair few games through injury. I mean aye we made top 4 in the end but we were clearly suffering due to our lack of depth at CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? 'Pissed opportunities' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. I said nothing about the first point. The second misrepresents my view on January. I was always clear that there was no need to take a RISK by not signing a midfielder. I said even if we make top 4 without signing one (and letting Shelvey go), it’s still a risk of falling away in the Carabao and the league. Now we fell away in one and not the other. Maybe we’d have done better in Carabao with an extra midfielder, maybe not who knows. My view was that the risk wasn’t worth it, not that it was a guaranteed bad move. Edited June 5, 2023 by greydos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, KaKa said: Pretty sure people said it would be a missed opportunity to push on last season if we didn't sign a right winger in the summer. We didn't sign one. In January they then said it would be a missed opportunity to consolidate a top 4 place if we didn't sign a central midfielder. We didn't sign one. They were wrong on both accounts. Aye but you didn't, so we're all good, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Look forward to all our other contented players coming out with similar posts. Reckon he’s off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jaqen said: We had to disrupt the preferred double Joe left side and looked worse for it and Bruno had to play a fair few games through injury. I mean aye we made top 4 in the end but we were clearly suffering due to our lack of depth at CM. It's not like Kaka to completely ignore the actual arguments, deny reality, and take any opportunity to pat himself on the back like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, BonesJones said: Technically he's not wrong though, because if we don't get CL the following season then we have definitely missed this early opportunity of offering CL football, if we haven't got in some players that are only looking at joining a club at that level. We're not an established CL team so best to go for the bigger names now, whilst we know we can offer it, which then further increases our chances of being able to offer it down the line imo. This approach opens up a lot of potential issues down the road if we don’t get top 4 next season though. The players that signed for CL football don’t have it after a season, what do we do? Move them on? Or keep unhappy players that consider a non CL club below their level? It’s just never that simple to say let’s take advantage and sign CL players as a non established CL club, so far it’s one season. I personally don’t think our targets will change much from where they were pre top 4 finish, maybe a tweak here or there but I expect it will be the same trend of steady squad building progress that we have seen developing already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: We moved on from bed wetting crack to missed opportunities now ? I wish people would stop peddling these phrases. They're as tedious as fuck. Edited June 5, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: It's not like Kaka to completely ignore the actual arguments, deny reality, and take any opportunity to pat himself on the back like. Ah, here we go again. Evil KaKa patting himself on the back and being patronising and arrogant right? Last summer and in January people were speaking so matter of factly about how bad things would be if we didn't make those signings, and they complained and complained and complained. No matter how you cut it, it was ultimately all for nowt, as things worked out just fine and they were wrong about it. Just because it didn't work out how you anticipated don't turn that around on me and claim I'm patting myself on the back because I pointed that out. I know you guys get really wound up and find it annoying in these instances when these kinds of things are brought up, but equally it's really annoying to some of us when the incessant complaining and doom mongering is going on too, and so I guess we're all even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 hours ago, andycap said: Surely lavia will be bought back by city. Wait how does this work? If we offer more and he wants to come here can he just say fuck off to City? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sufi said: Wait how does this work? If we offer more and he wants to come here can he just say fuck off to City? They have first refusal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, andycap said: They have first refusal Reports say this doesn’t kick in until next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Ah, here we go again. Evil KaKa patting himself on the back and being patronising and arrogant right? Last summer and in January people were speaking so matter of factly about how bad things would be if we didn't make those signings, and they complained and complained and complained. No matter how you cut it, it was ultimately all for nowt, as things worked out just fine and they were wrong about it. Just because it didn't work out how you anticipated don't turn that around on me and claim I'm patting myself on the back because I pointed that out. I know you guys get really wound up and find it annoying in these instances when these kinds of things are brought up, but equally it's really annoying to some of us when the incessant complaining and doom mongering is going on too, and so I guess we're all even. I'm not reading your post because a quick scan shows it's just going to be nauseating, but we're in massive need of reinforcements in centre midfield. We were in January, and we still are. We finished the season with Gordon, Anderson and an injured Bruno there. Literally every one of our central midfielders were injured by the final whistle Edited June 6, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I'm not reading your post because a quick scan shows it's just going to be nauseating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 One thing I would say about Lavia is that I think he's still firmly in the 'project' stage of his career. He has tremendous potential, but I think some much of that future upside rests in the ability to shape him, which itself will require a degree of patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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