Shearergol Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Southgate seems to hate us, he's picked pretty much every fit CB over Lascelles Maybe he just recognises when players aren't good enough to play for England? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Southgate seems to hate us, he's picked pretty much every fit CB over Lascelles Maybe he just recognises when players aren't good enough to play for England? Remember when Longstaff was linked to an England call up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Happens here as well, no? I don't think it's necessarily racist, is it? I mean.... can you imagine if good black players were constantly being compared to only (or mostly) good white players? It's as if to say that the likes of Weah, Drogba, etc are not good enough (to be compared to) and that a good black player should be compared to a good white player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Southgate seems to hate us, he's picked pretty much every fit CB over Lascelles Maybe he just recognises when players aren't good enough to play for England? I don't rate Jama particularly but if you're dishing out caps to Coady, Mings, Tarkowski etc. he can feel hard done by not to have had a couple of games IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Village Idiot Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Happens here as well, no? I don't think it's necessarily racist, is it? I mean.... can you imagine if good black players were constantly being compared to only (or mostly) good white players? It's as if to say that the likes of Weah, Drogba, etc are not good enough (to be compared to) and that a good black player should be compared to a good white player. Again, I'm white as milk so I'm possibly talking out of my ass, but I find it slightly aggravating that when we get a rising black player, he immediately has to be compared to another black player regardless. Looks to me that the media are putting people in boxes depending on the color of their skin. So Fati breaks into scene, and media go "oh, he's black, who's the last great black forward that played for Barça? Well, that's who Fati is". I've seen white players compared to Drogba, btw. EDIT: I'm probably putting too much thought into this, I admit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Nah its def a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Neil Warnock ahead of his 1500th game as a manager today: "The sooner we get fans back the better. I'd like to get booed at least one more time before I retire." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Happens here as well, no? I don't think it's necessarily racist, is it? I mean.... can you imagine if good black players were constantly being compared to only (or mostly) good white players? It's as if to say that the likes of Weah, Drogba, etc are not good enough (to be compared to) and that a good black player should be compared to a good white player. Again, I'm white as milk so I'm possibly talking out of my ass, but I find it slightly aggravating that when we get a rising black player, he immediately has to be compared to another black player regardless. Looks to me that the media are putting people in boxes depending on the color of their skin. So Fati breaks into scene, and media go "oh, he's black, who's the last great black forward that played for Barça? Well, that's who Fati is". I've seen white players compared to Drogba, btw. EDIT: I'm probably putting too much thought into this, I admit. Unless Fati shares any similarities to Eto’o as a player, then it’s definitely a lazy (and racist) comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Happens here as well, no? I don't think it's necessarily racist, is it? I mean.... can you imagine if good black players were constantly being compared to only (or mostly) good white players? It's as if to say that the likes of Weah, Drogba, etc are not good enough (to be compared to) and that a good black player should be compared to a good white player. Again, I'm white as milk so I'm possibly talking out of my ass, but I find it slightly aggravating that when we get a rising black player, he immediately has to be compared to another black player regardless. Looks to me that the media are putting people in boxes depending on the color of their skin. So Fati breaks into scene, and media go "oh, he's black, who's the last great black forward that played for Barça? Well, that's who Fati is". I've seen white players compared to Drogba, btw. EDIT: I'm probably putting too much thought into this, I admit. Etoo was a CF, has Fati even played there? I've barely seen him play be fair, but it feels like he's been played on the left of a front three. I really, really hope Fati makes it and become the next big thing for no other reason than him being a Barcelona product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Gotta love the laziness and slight racism of our media calling Fati the new Eto'o. "Mmmm... who's another black guy that scored goals for Barça? Eto'o! There you have it." Happens here as well, no? I don't think it's necessarily racist, is it? I mean.... can you imagine if good black players were constantly being compared to only (or mostly) good white players? It's as if to say that the likes of Weah, Drogba, etc are not good enough (to be compared to) and that a good black player should be compared to a good white player. It's lazy it's not racist. However laziness will always lead to accusations as there are many people that are prepared to put in the effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 It could be racist if their styles of play aren’t similar enough to warrant the comparison if they weren’t the same ethnicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 If you going to class comparing players as racism we're well and truly fucked, and down the path of total madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 It could be racist if their styles of play aren’t similar enough to warrant the comparison if they weren’t the same ethnicity. The comparison is that he scores goals for Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 It could be racist if their styles of play aren’t similar enough to warrant the comparison if they weren’t the same ethnicity. The comparison is that he scores goals for Barca. Well obviously that's true. I'd say a lazy comparison is fair enough, but to say it's racism is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 It could be racist if their styles of play aren’t similar enough to warrant the comparison if they weren’t the same ethnicity. The comparison is that he scores goals for Barca. Well obviously that's true. I'd say a lazy comparison is fair enough, but to say it's racism is ridiculous. I concur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Art in motion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Was thinking of players teams sold early because they thought they had got the most out of a player’s lifespan. For us Gary Speed - Newcastle to Bolton. Played another four years. Eight goals at 36-37 for Bolton Solano - both times. Was one of West Ham’s best players 07/08. We could have used that Gary Cahil - Villa to Bolton. Johnny Evans - Man U to West Brom Albrighton - Villa to Leicester Kouyate - West Ham to Crystal Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Do the last 4 fit that category? Those just seemed bad decisions rather than because they thought they were finished but went on to have an Indian summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Was thinking would Milner to Liverpool fit this but looked it up and City offered him more to stay than what Liverpool offered so it’s not like they wanted him to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Maybe a better term would be “players they thought had hit their ceiling and decided to sell” Pirlo to Juventus? Always thought that was weird but not sure if it was Pirlo that wanted to go to Juve or Milan who thought they could do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Was thinking of players teams sold early because they thought they had got the most out of a player’s lifespan. For us Gary Speed - Newcastle to Bolton. Played another four years. Eight goals at 36-37 for Bolton Solano - both times. Was one of West Ham’s best players 07/08. We could have used that Gary Cahil - Villa to Bolton. Johnny Evans - Man U to West Brom Albrighton - Villa to Leicester Kouyate - West Ham to Crystal Palace LvG didn't fancy Evans and bought Rojo as a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Aaron Hughes for us then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 David Ginola sticking the knife in to Ashley on SSN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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