Guest HTT II Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) They were both world-class performers, but never quite elite level like Messi and Ronaldo, but having said that, no-one else has been at their level either of their generation. Edited June 29, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, HTT II said: They were both world-class performers, but never quite elite level like Messi and Ronaldo, but having said that, no-one else has been at their level either. Ability wise Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, Wolfcastle said: Ability wise Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo ever. In his generation he was/is… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) No doubts they're the best since 2005 and two of the best ever and nobody else can touch them in this generation (or the next). Maradona was better than all of them for me. If were talking 'ever'. Edited June 29, 2021 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: No doubts they're the best since 2005 and two of the best ever and nobody else can touch them in this generation (or the next). Maradona was better than all of them for me. Maradona man, totally agree, although the best player I’ve ever saw live is Zidane, sheer elegance and wizardry with the ball at his feet, those two are probably too close to call between them in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 hours ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Madness Rooney was fucking mint for 10+ years. Every year. All time leading scorer records for club and country. Titles galore. He was also able to adapt his game as he aged and maintain a ridiculously high standard. There's nothing that Bale could do that Rooney couldn't. And didn't repeatedly. No doubt Bale was shit hot for a number of years, but Rooney was just better and better for longer, for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Rooney was fucking mint for 10+ years. Every year. All time leading scorer records for club and country. Titles galore. He was also able to adapt his game as he aged and maintain a ridiculously high standard. There's nothing that Bale could do that Rooney couldn't. And didn't repeatedly. No doubt Bale was shit hot for a number of years, but Rooney was just better and better for longer, for me. Bale’s rise at Spurs reminded me a little of Henry at Arsenal, winger moving up front etc. But Henry did it for longer at the top level right up until he was old. Bale has a touch of Michael Owen about him.. his heart isn’t in it anymore. Filthy rich and his real interests are elsewhere. I wonder about Rooney sometimes, it was rather a quick demise of his talents. Was it genetics against him or did he just not look after himself? He was done at Man Utd by the time he was 29/30, no major injuries.. he just looks like the fat version of Ricky Hatton now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Rooney was very good but not great for me. 183 goals in 393 games for Man Utd, less than a goal every other game in an amazing team. And less than a goal every other game for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, ToonArmy1892 said: Rooney was very good but not great for me. 183 goals in 393 games for Man Utd, less than a goal every other game in an amazing team. And less than a goal every other game for England. The question is really whether he's better than Bale though, and he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Peak Bale to me was unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Yeah, i'd have Rooney over Bale. Really think Bale drops a few levels when he doesn't have a team playing to him like it was at Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, mrmojorisin75 said: The question is really whether he's better than Bale though, and he was. I had not read previous pages. Agree Rooney over Bale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Peak Bale to me was unplayable. Only had to show him on his right TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Glasscock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 "Eating pies" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Love the avatar on that twitter account Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 "I'm not anti-women...I just think there's a time and place." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Ameritoon said: "I'm not anti-women...I just think there's a time and place." Reminds me of one of my all-time favorite bits: Edited July 2, 2021 by Tomato Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Full written reasons: https://www.efl.com/contentassets/873a8914e09740d3b3a8848131ea10b8/210630---efl-v-derby-county---decision-on-sanction-final.pdf "Following the decision, the EFL remains disappointed that the Commission has determined that a £100,000 financial penalty is appropriate, when it was found the policy adopted for the amortisation of player registrations and the description in the notes to the Annual Accounts did not comply with Profit & Sustainability (P&S) rules. Alongside a financial penalty, the Club received a reprimand as to its future conduct and has been ordered to submit revised and restated accounts for the years ended 30 June 2016, 30 June 2017 and 30 June 2018 to the EFL by Wednesday 18 August 2021. While the EFL does not agree that those sanctions are commensurate to the breaches found, following consultation with our legal advisors, the EFL Board has regrettably determined that there are insufficient grounds to appeal the sanction imposed by the Independent Disciplinary Commission" "As a consequence of the EFL’s decision not to appeal, the divisional placings for season 2021/22 are to remain in accordance with the fixture list issued on 24 June 2021." Representing Derby, who are safe from relegation because the EFL aren't appealing, are Nick de Marco and Tom Richards (who was on High Court documents relating to our own case in February). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Bamburgh makes the list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 30/06/2021 at 01:14, ToonArmy1892 said: Rooney was very good but not great for me. 183 goals in 393 games for Man Utd, less than a goal every other game in an amazing team. And less than a goal every other game for England. Genuinely seen it all now. Rooney not great? Jesus Christ. I don't want to bore everyone with just how important he was to us, but goals aren't everything (can't believe I'm having to say that even though he's the top scorer of all time for club and country). Rooney was the main reason that team was great, and that includes when Ronaldo was there. Ronaldo could never have flourished at us the way he did without Rooney. Can't see the argument for Bale over Rooney either. The only thing Bale had over Rooney was pace, and Rooney wasn't slow either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 5 goals in international tournaments?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Aye on the whole he was a bit of a let-down for England - despite the record, particularly when you think we spent every two years fawning over him. He was consistent in qualifiers but only scored one tournament goal after Euro 2004, in a game that we lost and ultimately meant nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On the whole England have been muck in international tournaments. I always find it hard to use international football as a guide to who's better between two players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Rooney lost something when he went to manure. He mightve become a better team player and perhaps even a better overall footballer but he lost that youthfull confidence he had. Definately a 'great' though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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