toontownman Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 We are proper shitehouse in the transfer market now. Will you take 17m? No.. absolutely not 35m. Here is 20??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 At some point we're going to have to pay what a club wants, or run the risk of massively delaying our 'project'. FFP excuse is a weird one considering Forest don't even have a shirt sponsor, but have no trouble hoying cash around left right and centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) You have to wonder how much of this is us trying to get a player we want and how much of it is showing off and hammering home that we won't go beyond our valuation of a player. Edited August 16, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 It does look that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You have to wonder how much of this is us trying to get a player we want and how much of it is showing off and hammering home that we won't go beyond our valuation of a player. NUFC: "This is our valuation of your player, we won't pay beyond it." Selling club: "Oh, is it? What a shame. Now fuck off." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: NUFC: "This is our valuation of your player, we won't pay beyond it." Selling club: "Oh, is it? What a shame. Now fuck off." I mean in terms of letting everyone else know as well. Liverpool did the same thing for a couple of years and walked away when clubs tried to get them to pay daft amounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 It's difficult to hold a club to ransom when they'd rather not sell anyway. "I know you said you want £40m, but if you don't take £25m we'll walk away, we really mean it!" "Erm, bye then?" It's not a tactic that's likely to have a great deal of success. As we're perhaps finding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 You have to at least make the selling clubs have a decision to make. Offering way below the asking price or going rate then walking away just makes us look a bit amateurish more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, toontownman said: We are proper shitehouse in the transfer market now. Will you take 17m? No.. absolutely not 35m. Here is 20??? Think it's time to avoid this thread, the posts are getting more frustrating than the supposed bids that everyone believes from unreliable sources. Edited August 17, 2022 by elbee909 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I like our undercutting policy, as previously stated. We aren't getting taken for a ride and its important to set up how we get treated in the transfer market going forward. Probably should have written Shitehawk instead of Shitehouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I mean in terms of letting everyone else know as well. Liverpool did the same thing for a couple of years and walked away when clubs tried to get them to pay daft amounts. We’re not being quoted daft amounts though, that’s the frustration. If Leicester were asking for £100m for Maddison, or Watford wanted £60m for Pedro, I could understand this point of view. The reality is the valuations that selling clubs have allegedly put forward all seem fairly reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Definitely wouldn't go anywhere near that far. Very good first half and second half he wasn't great, then picked up a bit, then missed a decent chance. Where he's picking up the ball looks like the problem, but he looks like a very good dribbler. He didn't look like he was playing at CF at all, more LW and then RW. Good. I'm hoping we see him more as a wide man rather than an out and out striker, because otherwise my guess is if he's seen as a striker that would mean we weren't confident of getting Ramos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 5 hours ago, toontownman said: We are proper shitehouse in the transfer market now. Will you take 17m? No.. absolutely not 35m. Here is 20??? £20m for a totally unproven player is not really a shitehouse offer tbh. Has anyone else offered even close to that much? I get the feeling Watford will do a deal after a bit of haggling. He still looks very raw from what I've seen, similar to Bamba Dieng. It's all potential, but could just as easily turn out to be a kid who has some nice tricks but can't finish for shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Izakaya said: At some point we're going to have to pay what a club wants, or run the risk of massively delaying our 'project'. FFP excuse is a weird one considering Forest don't even have a shirt sponsor, but have no trouble hoying cash around left right and centre. forest in the situation we were after the takeover as they'll have been making losses in the champo most likely, they can spent whatever they're doing now but if they try and repeat every window they'll be absolutely up shit creek in terms of ffp why do people find this hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Football has changed now Premier league teams don’t have to sell if they don’t want to The tv money has meant a lot of teams can afford to keep their best players and pay them well. or….they can set ridiculously high valuations for them and wait for teams to match it Years ago you could just raid smaller premier league clubs for fun but know things have changed with all of the shared TV money You would of thought someone like James Ward Prowse would of moved years ago but seems content at Southampton unless someone comes in with a stupid bid. Same with Anthony Gordon / Everton demanding 50 million for a player that has played one half decent season in the premier league ? Edited August 17, 2022 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Ivan Toney 50m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, JonBez comesock said: Ivan Toney 50m worth it, if that was the fee we should have bit their hand off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) So predictable to see the self-entitlement of our fanbase reach record levels since the takeover, despite seeing levels of investment on and off the field unheard of in 15 years and the fact we have been told the blueprint of the Clubs operating philosophy is a slow burn, but it’s still not good enough for some. we’re operating as a competent,competitive premiership club for the first time in a decade. Our reputation (as seen by the forest fans forum) is still that of a lower PL club. I’m thankful for where we are and happy to watch the transition take place in line with the plan. Edited August 17, 2022 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 If we are still under Ashley we won’t be bidding 20m for Pedro, we would be bidding 2M for someone from Danish League. To be honest I find it quite difficult to determine the “going rate”. Say for Pedro, an unproven player with potential, what’s the going rate? 20m? 30m? 40m? Probably the reality is it doesn’t matter - it just depends on how much the other club is willing to bid, hence why so many clubs and agents trying to initiate a bidding war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-newcastle-united-submitting-25m-joao-pedro-bid-as-two-marquee-signings-lined-up/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 50 minutes ago, RS said: So predictable to see the self-entitlement of our fanbase reach record levels since the takeover, despite seeing levels of investment on and off the field unheard of in 15 years and the fact we have been told the blueprint of the Clubs operating philosophy is a slow burn, but it’s still not good enough for some. we’re operating as a competent,competitive premiership club for the first time in a decade. Our reputation (as seen by the forest fans forum) is still that of a lower PL club. I’m thankful for where we are and happy to watch the transition take place in line with the plan. It's depressing and putting me off a little tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Jaqen said: You have to at least make the selling clubs have a decision to make. Offering way below the asking price or going rate then walking away just makes us look a bit amateurish more than anything. That's only ever really happened with Maddison though. It's perfectly normal that a buying club will come in with a lower offer and the clubs will meet in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It's depressing and putting me off a little tbh. You just have to brush it off. Dementors gonna dement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, mrmojorisin75 said: worth it, if that was the fee we should have bit their hand off This is a joke, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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