Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Not even sub today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Absolute farce this like. The whole thing has been an utter waste of time for all concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Unless he's injured that is ridiculous. We may as well cancel the loan, he's basically just training with shit footballers, how is that any more valuable than him training with our much better players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Hope we loan Hibs all of our budding superstars from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 bring him home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 The term shit in their nest seems apparent here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) I can't see why we wouldn't just get him out of there. It doesn't seem as though Hearts would have any complaints. Edited May 7, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Maybe there’s no recall option in the contract. Correct course of action is to bring him back if possible, blacklist Hearts, and get a new experienced loan manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Why would he be on the bench? Goes entirely against everything we have learned from Howe so far. The miley brothers should get on the bench before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Get Shola up to sort them out, do a full lap of the pitch on his bike before Kuol jumps on and gets a backer home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) The lad only started his first game in professional football mid-December in a league so utterly shite its hard to describe adequately - seriously, the standard here is poor; I spent the other night 'braving' late Autumn conditions to see Western Wanderers getting beat by Sydney FC in the local derby (canny atmosphere, bit of argy bargy - but not the highest standard of football). I'm still lost as to what exactly was expected; he couldn't get a start in a poor league in his native country, yet somehow there is an expectation he can get a game at a higher level? He made an excellent cameo in a pre-season friendly vs Barcelona, and came off the bench a couple of times for a mediocre side at the WC. Make no mistake about it; the SPL is a big step up from the A League. And the PL is a massive step up from that. The lad should have either trained with NUFC or went on loan at a much, much lower level than he finds himself. I feel desperately sorry for him, he's been let down by our loan team - I refuse to blame Hearts, who may not have realised how raw the lad is until he rocked up to training, for anything other than for not doing their homework. They're under no obligation to play someone who isn't ready. NUFC should be hesitant re sending players out there again, though. Edited May 7, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Maybe Naismith will send him another text message afterwards apologising….Seriously though, bring him back and don’t send anyone else to Hearts for the foreseeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, STM said: Why would he be on the bench? Goes entirely against everything we have learned from Howe so far. The miley brothers should get on the bench before him. We couldn't play him anyway, same reason we couldn't play Anderson at the end of last season when he came back from Bristol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Carroll had a shite first loan spell at Preston fwiw and did him no harm (couldn't get a regular spot ahead of Agyemang and Brett Ormerod) and he'd had the benefit of growing up and being raised here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: We couldn't play him anyway, same reason we couldn't play Anderson at the end of last season when he came back from Bristol. If possible I would get him back here just to get his career back on track. Hearts and/or us have clearly made severe errors in assessing his needs and abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, STM said: Why would he be on the bench? Goes entirely against everything we have learned from Howe so far. The miley brothers should get on the bench before him. I don't think anyone has asked for him to be on our bench But if he isn't going to make their bench then he may as well spend that time training with us and then we can loan him out to someone else for next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I'm not having this why should hearts play him malarkey like. He's been loaned to them to be developed and get game time whether that be full matches or five minutes. He's getting none he cant be that bad man, he has pace and natural finishing which in turn should be a nice option to have. But they'd rather use a clogger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Maybe he's not that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, andycap said: I'm not having this why should hearts play him malarkey like. He's been loaned to them to be developed and get game time whether that be full matches or five minutes. He's getting none he cant be that bad man, he has pace and natural finishing which in turn should be a nice option to have. But they'd rather use a clogger. It's a two way thing though. He was getting a few starts and more sub apps to begin with. If they've then watched him, seen him train and don't think he's ready, why should they flog a dead horse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Hearts may as well return him. What a fucking waste of everyones time Edited May 7, 2023 by RS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: It's a two way thing though. He was getting a few starts and more sub apps to begin with. If they've then watched him, seen him train and don't think he's ready, why should they flog a dead horse? One start. Against Rangers and in centre midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Just now, Paullow said: One start. Against Rangers and in centre midfield. And he'd only ever made 3 senior starts before moving to the UK and that was in his own environment. You think he'd all of a sudden step up to a tougher league in a different country and all of a sudden be playing week-in, week-out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: And he'd only ever made 3 senior starts before moving to the UK and that was in his own environment. You think he'd all of a sudden step up to a tougher league in a different country and all of a sudden be playing week-in, week-out? I was just correcting your post, which wrongly made the situation sound better than it was. They'll obviously know far more than us, and he probably isn't ready, but if he did actually have a 'few starts' against some of the St Johnstone's, Ross County's etc. in his natural position he could have been a lot further forward than one solitary start against one of the best 2 sides in the league, in an unorthodox position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Guess it's like us when we loaned Giuseppe Rossi and barely gave him a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 The lad might not be showing enough in training to justify an inclusion,we just don't know. Probably fucking freezing up there ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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