LiquidAK Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: 10pm tonight probably a good place to start. Look on the bright side, when he's won the CL he might fuck off and City can go back to being the best team in the league but by a shorter distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Froggy said: Just sharing my opinion. That was a chill response. Read like a CM Punk promo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 They must fucking love their high school American football in Texas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 It's happened. I actually agreed with a Froggy post. Fergie > Pep Not even a question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Depends if you want longevity or a team that is just going to blow everyone to pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Pep is better than Fergie imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Rafalove said: Depends if you want longevity or a team that is just going to blow everyone to pieces. Fergie never created teams that blew everyone to pieces as long as you looked the other way from 1992-2013. I'd genuinely love to Pep take over someone like Spurs and see what he could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Look sometimes a manager is clearly better than another manager, but amoung the coaches who have won multiple champions leagues and domestic leagues it's just a nonsense, they're both great. Ferguson had the longevity, and it can be held against Pep that he basically has had freedom to build whatever he wanted whereas Ferguson had to maybe wring everything out of a team then rebuild it ground up, whereas Pep can just add 2 new players per window and shift it around. They're both great. Pep for me has been tactically influential in a way Fergie wasn't (or at least less obviously so) but Ferguson basically saw every challenge and then worked out how to neutralise it or copy it. Wenger came in and upped the game on the conditioning of players, ferguson saw oh fuck yeah we need to do that, and etc etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 The Premier Leagues game of the season is available to be voted on, it is between our 6-1 over Spurs, and Arsenal’s 3-2 over Bournemouth. https://www.premierleague.com/news/3534253 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 What’s the story behind Pep’s apparent love for Brescia? He only played there briefly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Froggy said: Fergie never created teams that blew everyone to pieces as long as you looked the other way from 1992-2013. I'd genuinely love to Pep take over someone like Spurs and see what he could do. Manchester United were never as dominant under SAF as Pep at Man City or Barca (I didn’t see his Bayern team). Pep’s Barca is the greatest team of all time. They beat Manchester United 3-1. A team that Fergie himself described as the best he ever had. They did so while revolutionising the game along the way. His Manchester City team have now equalled Fergie’s treble. But done so with more points. More goals scored and fewer conceded. Pep has smashed Fergie’s best points total for a season numerous times. You don’t even hear some of the old tropes about “grinding out results when you’re not playing well” because it so seldom happens. Pep’s level of domination is another level to Sir Alex’s domination. Edited June 11, 2023 by Rafalove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Overall as a Manager - Pep Overall as a Coach - Pep As a PL Manager - Fergie As a PL Coach - Pep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Manchester United were never as dominant under SAF as Pep at Man City or Barca (I didn’t see his Bayern team). Pep’s Barca is the greatest team of all time. They beat Manchester United 3-1. A team that Fergie himself described as the best he ever had. They did so while revolutionising the game along the way. His Manchester City team have now equalled Fergie’s treble. But done so with more points. More goals scored and fewer conceded. Pep has smashed Fergie’s best points total for a season numerous times. You don’t even hear some of the old tropes about “grinding out results when you’re not playing well” because it so seldom happens. Pep’s level of domination is another level to Sir Alex’s domination. All true..... but until Pep takes a team that isn't already one of the best in the world and does it then there's always the question mark that he wouldn't be able to do it without the fantastic starting blocks that he had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Fergie was the perfect manager for his time and got out of the game at the right time. Pep is the perfect manager for the past 15 years where the game has become more tactical. It's almost as though there isn't and doesn't have to be a singular answer to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, madras said: All true..... but until Pep takes a team that isn't already one of the best in the world and does it then there's always the question mark that he wouldn't be able to do it without the fantastic starting blocks that he had Just to play devil's advocate here.. But you could certainly argue City weren't one of the best in the world when he joined them? Edited June 11, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Neither were Barca before Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, madras said: All true..... but until Pep takes a team that isn't already one of the best in the world and does it then there's always the question mark that he wouldn't be able to do it without the fantastic starting blocks that he had I think the Aberdeen side breaking the Old Firm duopoly multiple times and a European trophy beats any achievement Guardiola has with Barca, Bayern and cash rich City. I don’t think anyone has done it since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, McCormick said: Neither were Barca before Pep. They won the treble two seasons prior. They were definitely one of the best sides in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: I think the Aberdeen side breaking the Old Firm duopoly multiple times and a European trophy beats any achievement Guardiola has with Barca, Bayern and cash rich City. I don’t think anyone has done it since. It's understandable as it's so long ago, but when people are now comparing Pep and Fergie they're COMPARING Pep with Fergie at Man United. His Aberdeen achievements are arguably just as impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Humphries best bits https://twitter.com/SoccerClasico/status/1667864741241290752?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Stifler said: The Premier Leagues game of the season is available to be voted on, it is between our 6-1 over Spurs, and Arsenal’s 3-2 over Bournemouth. https://www.premierleague.com/news/3534253 The 3-3 with Man City was better than both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Humphries best bits https://twitter.com/SoccerClasico/status/1667864741241290752?s=20 The Ginola one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Froggy said: They won the treble two seasons prior. They were definitely one of the best sides in the world. No they didn't, they did the double They were a good side but Pep created the best side that's played the game (at least certainly in the time I've been following football) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Humphries best bits https://twitter.com/SoccerClasico/status/1667864741241290752?s=20 Good lord. Made it up to the Keown one then had to quit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Stifler said: The Premier Leagues game of the season is available to be voted on, it is between our 6-1 over Spurs, and Arsenal’s 3-2 over Bournemouth. https://www.premierleague.com/news/3534253 Wonder why Man City 4-1 Arsenal didn’t make the cut? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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