Still not worthy of a thread

[Hanshithispantz]

What's the thought process behind that, @LFEE? That it'll eliminate high lines and lead to more room on the pitch?

 

I feel like it would push us back to tikatika with teams just trying to dominate the middle of the pitch, but it's an interesting suggestion.

[LFEE]

4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

What's the thought process behind that, @LFEE? That it'll eliminate high lines and lead to more room on the pitch?

 

I feel like it would push us back to tikatika with teams just trying to dominate the middle of the pitch, but it's an interesting suggestion.

To a degree a combination of that and the main thought process was to help linesman make offside calls by only needing to cover 20/25 yards of the pitch maximum. In fairness to them they got 98% right before VAR was brought in covering 50 yards. 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

3 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said:

I'm giving him marginally onside there 

 

 

Should have diving style judges rating each goal out of 10, with 9s across the board and above being immune to offsides or fouls in the buildup.

 

 

 

Id love the audio.

 

'yeah Dave your man is just offside in the build up and you've missed a leg breaker in the build up. But fuck me did you see the strike? Top fucking bins, off the beans and toast and into the corner. I'm going to allow that and enjoy it on Match of the Day later. Final decision is goal'

[Lucky]

3 hours ago, buzz said:

Burnie shilling Rainbet got him perma banned from Twitter  bloke will be going apoplectic 

 

 

 

[Yorkie]

Regardless of where you stand on the daylight argument, I'd hope that most could see that a (pretty fundamental) rule amendment provoked by the existence of VAR is fucking shit. There's no way this is on the table if VAR isn't routinely chalking-off perfectly good goals.

 

There's fuck all wrong with the rule if it's applied moreso in spirit rather than to the letter. You take the rough with the smooth and just accept that the vast, vast, vast majority of goals scored from an offside position are negligibly so, and/or something you credit the striker for, for 'beating' the rule. In the same way a defender might get away with a sly dig or stamp off the ball, which should technically be a foul.

 

If VAR has taught us anything it should be that the game's imperfections are baked-in, part of its fluidity and its nature; instead we double-down with more interference, refs mic'd up to stadium speakers and - heaven forbid - rule changes. Just leave it the hell alone.

[OpenC]

Only real issue I have with the current offside rule is the timing of the call, which will one of these days lead to a serious injury for a player making or receiving a challenge that wouldn't have needed to be made if offside was given five seconds earlier*.  Like hans says, there's a line and if you're on the wrong side of it at the wrong time, then it's on you. I don't think the positioning of the line will make a huge amount of difference to the accuracy of human decisions; good arguments either way here though

 

 

* edit: looks like it's already happened at least once, not sure how I hadn't heard about the Forest one in May

 

 

Edited October 29, 2025 by OpenC

[Optimistic Nut]

4 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Regardless of where you stand on the daylight argument, I'd hope that most could see that a (pretty fundamental) rule amendment provoked by the existence of VAR is fucking shit. There's no way this is on the table if VAR isn't routinely chalking-off perfectly good goals.

 

There's fuck all wrong with the rule if it's applied moreso in spirit rather than to the letter. You take the rough with the smooth and just accept that the vast, vast, vast majority of goals scored from an offside position are negligibly so, and/or something you credit the striker for, for 'beating' the rule. In the same way a defender might get away with a sly dig or stamp off the ball, which should technically be a foul.

 

If VAR has taught us anything it should be that the game's imperfections are baked-in, part of its fluidity and its nature; instead we double-down with more interference, refs mic'd up to stadium speakers and - heaven forbid - rule changes. Just leave it the hell alone.

 

I've said all along, this should be the case with or without VAR. If you're playing Sunday league, how can a linesman confidently call an offside the way the law is written? Daylight, you've got a chance at least. The offside law was initially brought in to stop players standing way up the pitch and "goal hanging". Daylight again is the closest you'll get to a balance between stopping that sort of thing, and not being marginalised because your shoulder may be a smidge ahead of the defender. 

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I've said all along, this should be the case with or without VAR. If you're playing Sunday league, how can a linesman confidently call an offside the way the law is written? Daylight, you've got a chance at least. The offside law was initially brought in to stop players standing way up the pitch and "goal hanging". Daylight again is the closest you'll get to a balance between stopping that sort of thing, and not being marginalised because your shoulder may be a smidge ahead of the defender. 

Correct. How we got from that to drawing lines of people's toes? 

[Hanshithispantz]

I don't agree with daylight being the answer but I do think we all agree what the actual issues are 

 

I wouldn't be against scrapping the 500 different cameras at the ground they use during the game and just having the broadcasting cam along with like 2 other angles. No slo-mo or anything. 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[OpenC]

1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said:

Correct. How we got from that to drawing lines of people's toes? 

 

Next stop, monitoring ref assistants with xOC for expected offside calls and refs themselves with xVO expected VAR overturns

[Kimbo]

I don’t really have an issue with the current offside rule, the only very minor change would be to look at the feet rather than the armpit or whatever else. If we improve the technology to the point where we can get quick reliable decisions then it’s sorted.

[Deuce]

Dunno how exactly it’s all gonna shake out, but it’s going to be thoroughly amusing to watch how Arsenal end up finishing 2nd this season.

[Fak]

23 minutes ago, Deuce said:

Dunno how exactly it’s all gonna shake out, but it’s going to be thoroughly amusing to watch how Arsenal end up finishing 2nd this season.

 

Not if Liverpool somehow manage to finish 1st. 

[FloydianMag]

 

[Likelylad]

Dicky Masters being his usual cunty self? 

[Dr Venkman]

Wasn’t really sure where to put this. Occurred to me last night that we have a lot of players all over the pitch now who are very good at retaining possession of the ball. It’s surely the best NUFC squad I’ve seen in my lifetime. Ramsdale, Tino, Hall, Tripps, Botman, Schar, Thiaw, Sandro, Miley, Bruno, Ramsey, Woltemade. That’s just off the top of my head. I will be missing some. All of them help us keep possession and we will soon tip over into a team who controls games.

[Optimistic Nut]

Two offsides last night in St-Mirren v Hearts. 

 

For me the St-Mirren goal should be within the laws of the game. The Hearts one you'd have no issues being given offside, but if there's VAR that can show any part was in line with a defender, should also be fine imo. 

[Groundhog63]

St.Pauli fans collective 😍

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQZ4lSalQLg/?igsh=MXBlMWN6c3N0eHlsYg==

[Rafalove]

Canny

 

 

 

[Elric]

1 hour ago, Rafalove said:

Canny

 

 

 

 

Love that. 

[Pata]

[Cronky]

This may or may not entertain, but here goes.

 

It's my birthday today, and one of my presents was a match programme from the first game that I ever attended - Dunfermline v Rangers, April 1966. The occasion was doubly memorable because, thanks to one of my Dad's well-connected work colleagues, my brother and I were taken through the players area by the Dunfermline manager, and deposited right by the place where the players entered the pitch.

 

Playing for Dunfermline that day was a certain Alexander Chapman Ferguson. It was within my power that day to grasp him by the arm and utter the words - 'One day, you will be offered the chance to manage Manchester United. That post is cursed - do not accept it.'

 

Ah, the power of hindsight.

[gbandit]

Just now, Cronky said:

This may or may not entertain, but here goes.

 

It's my birthday today, and one of my presents was a match programme from the first game that I ever attended - Dunfermline v Rangers, April 1966. The occasion was doubly memorable because, thanks to one of my Dad's well-connected work colleagues, my brother and I were taken through the players area by the Dunfermline manager, and deposited right by the place where the players entered the pitch.

 

Playing for Dunfermline that day was a certain Alexander Chapman Ferguson. It was within my power that day to grasp him by the arm and utter the words - 'One day, you will be offered the chance to manage Manchester United. That post is cursed - do not accept it.'

 

Ah, the power of hindsight.

Happy birthday Cronky, I rarely agree with you, but you’re a good lad 

[Cronky]

11 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Happy birthday Cronky, I rarely agree with you, but you’re a good lad 

 

Thank you. I don't often get called a 'lad' these days.

[Fak]

1 minute ago, Cronky said:

 

Thank you. I don't often get called a 'lad' these days.

 

Have you transitioned?

All the very best