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The Prophet

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I wasn't sure where to put this, but re our support...

 

A few posters have listed our support as part of their creeping apathy towards football and NUFC. Me being one.

 

First off, our away following is incredibly loyal, you can't knock the numbers that travel. Also, Wor Flags are the shit and do a lot of heavy lifting for the home atmosphere. When SJP is on it (few and far between), there's no place like it and WF are the catalyst. However, I'm starting to nod my head more and more at opposing fans critical assessment of us.

 

Unfortunately, I don't get up much these days, largely due to the ballot system in place, but when I have the atmosphere has been as flat as a fart. I do think there's merit to the theory that young, noisy groups are being priced out of football and replaced with a middle class audience. Singing has been replaced by groans and the hurling of abuse. It feels like there's an expectation that we should turn up and win every time and support has been replaced by the idea that we're customers that should be entertained. Entitlement has always been thrown at NUFC fans in particular and it's hard to deny there isn't truth to that.

 

That's before we touch on the hounding of individual players. We're a fan base that love to dog pile our own players when they're down. It's not exclusive to us, but football fans in general are quick to forget these lads are human, with all kinds of stuff going on in their lives.

 

My animosity probably goes a bit further than that though. I remember being younger, getting behind the "Ashley out" campaign only to be told to "fuck off" and insulted by other members of the fan base. Lads and lasses who cared deeply about the club, made sacrifices bigger than I ever could, giving up sesson tickets and switching off that parts of their lives. These fans are still sneered at to this day by folk who turned up week in, week out to bemoan Steve Bruce slop.

 

I do recall the idea that trying to promote change at the club, landed you in "left wing" or "woke" element of the fanbase. It makes all the sense now when you hear large groups of the stadium booing players taking the knee. As though a thirty second pre-game gesture interrupts the viewing experience. It's almost as if "woke" is just a catch-all phrase for stuff that people don't like and keeping politics out of football only applies when it suits.

 

Anyway, a rambling apropos of nothing, but I've seen it mentioned a bit of late and it's frustration that goes beyond the unhinged social media following (which is inevitably creeping onto here). A lot of my gripes are with football fans in general, but the disconnect is definitely contributing in some form to the current apathy.

 

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The Prophet

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3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Agree with a lot of that.  I think a lot of the same could be applied to most clubs and fans, mind.  Just the way the game is going.  

 

100%, I probably unsuccessfully trird to capture that.

 

Particularly regarding the make up of the crowd. The "working man's sport" has priced out the working man.

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The shear amount of games we have due to CL, league cup draws at home with another good run, means 3 homes in a week etc will inevitably lead to complacency and the atmosphere to suffer a bit.  That 1/4 final v Leicester felt huge 3 years ago, less so for Brentford last year and probably even less again for Fulham next month.

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19 hours ago, The Prophet said:

I wasn't sure where to put this, but re our support...

 

A few posters have listed our support as part of their creeping apathy towards football and NUFC. Me being one.

 

First off, our away following is incredibly loyal, you can't knock the numbers that travel. Also, Wor Flags are the shit and do a lot of heavy lifting for the home atmosphere. When SJP is on it (few and far between), there's no place like it and WF are the catalyst. However, I'm starting to nod my head more and more at opposing fans critical assessment of us.

 

Unfortunately, I don't get up much these days, largely due to the ballot system in place, but when I have the atmosphere has been as flat as a fart. I do think there's merit to the theory that young, noisy groups are being priced out of football and replaced with a middle class audience. Singing has been replaced by groans and the hurling of abuse. It feels like there's an expectation that we should turn up and win every time and support has been replaced by the idea that we're customers that should be entertained. Entitlement has always been thrown at NUFC fans in particular and it's hard to deny there isn't truth to that.

 

That's before we touch on the hounding of individual players. We're a fan base that love to dog pile our own players when they're down. It's not exclusive to us, but football fans in general are quick to forget these lads are human, with all kinds of stuff going on in their lives.

 

My animosity probably goes a bit further than that though. I remember being younger, getting behind the "Ashley out" campaign only to be told to "fuck off" and insulted by other members of the fan base. Lads and lasses who cared deeply about the club, made sacrifices bigger than I ever could, giving up sesson tickets and switching off that parts of their lives. These fans are still sneered at to this day by folk who turned up week in, week out to bemoan Steve Bruce slop.

 

I do recall the idea that trying to promote change at the club, landed you in "left wing" or "woke" element of the fanbase. It makes all the sense now when you hear large groups of the stadium booing players taking the knee. As though a thirty second pre-game gesture interrupts the viewing experience. It's almost as if "woke" is just a catch-all phrase for stuff that people don't like and keeping politics out of football only applies when it suits.

 

Anyway, a rambling apropos of nothing, but I've seen it mentioned a bit of late and it's frustration that goes beyond the unhinged social media following (which is inevitably creeping onto here). A lot of my gripes are with football fans in general, but the disconnect is definitely contributing in some form to the current apathy.

 

I'll tell you what, nothing, and I mean nothing, will get in the way of my 35 minutes of whinging in each half (separated by a 25 minute pint break and followed by a swift exit to avoid the queues). 

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ennyoueffsea

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Hi all.

 

Wasn't sure where to put this but here goes. :)

 

Got a house move happening in the next 2 to 3 weeks and due to lack of room for storage I've decided to let my programme collection go. Proper gutted but there simply isn't the room.

 

There are 1300+ in Football, with also 700+ Speedway and 27 Ice Hockey with over 100 Miscellaneous booklets/magazines.

 

The football collection started around 1964 covering Newcastle and non-league with South Shields, though there are earlier dates including Chelsea v South Shields in both 1925/26 & 1926/27 seasons

 

If there's anyone who wants the lot just drop me a DM but will have to be first come first served. :thup:

 

Terry

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