TheBrownBottle Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 He’s young and raw. The price tag is for others to worry about. He’s been bought with the next decade in mind, potentially. A poor performance in the middle of a poor team performance doesn’t need undue criticism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Totally pointless scapegoat if that's what this is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Not from me personally no, they were all wank today. I just personally don’t think he’s a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Definitely a player in there, holds onto the ball too long mind. A few times in the first half he dribbled inside then lost the ball or played an overly safe pass when he had easier options to pass to Willock or Bruno before the dribble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) Tbh I’d rather Elliot Anderson got a run in the team over Gordon at the minute. Anderson was great on the left wing against Forest. Edited April 15, 2023 by Ronson333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronson333 said: Tbh I’d rather Elliot Anderson got a run in the team over Gordon at the minute. Anderson was great on the left wing against Forest. Gave the ball away for the third today by trying a daft dribble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I'm sure under Howe's tutelage he will improve, and will hopefully prove to at least be a useful player. However, I don't see anything to suggest he's going to evolve into a top four level premier league wide forward, which is the level we're aspiring to sustain and build upon. Can't help but feel, in that context, his signing will prove to be a miss just in terms of opportunity cost. Hope he proves me wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s young and raw. The price tag is for others to worry about. He’s been bought with the next decade in mind, potentially. A poor performance in the middle of a poor team performance doesn’t need undue criticism I mean with FFP in mind the price tag is quite important though. I hope he comes good, but right now it doesnt look that great of a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I doubt many will have him pencilled into their first XI for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Ridiculous targetting him when every one of them were wank today. Inevitable though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I think he'll improve and he is unlucky not to have 2 assists against West Ham and Liverpool at home. Also don't blame him for today any more than any else in the side as they were all as shit as each other. But I didn't understand why we spent £40m on him and still don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Ridiculous targetting him when every one of them were wank today. Inevitable though. Seems like him and Burn are the scapegoats recently. Sometimes Willock or Murphy as well, it’s sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 He wasn't good today and I wouldn't single him out for one poor performance in a poor side, I just don't think he's shown any glimpses yet to make me think there's a player in there since we bought him. Let's see what Howe can do with him, but I'm not so sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Ridiculous targetting him when every one of them were wank today. Inevitable though. I agree that everyone was wank. But when there is a chance to find players in the world for less money that can just step right in and improve the team (The Bruno G's, Botman's, Mitomas, Fergusons of the football world. And yes I know that Bruno G and Botman was ass today as stated before but talking about using 40 million quid better.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Everybody wants him to succeed. He’s had a slow start. We all hope he comes good. Many didn’t rate him before he joined and he’s done little to change their minds. I wanted him to start today. But tbh I think he’s better off the bench. He was up against a 37 year old former winger today and got nothing from him. Young is someone he should look to emulate in his professionalism, dedication and application. Never a world beater himself but was a really effective winger at his peak and has had a great ans long career at the highest levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mattoon said: He wasn't good today and I wouldn't single him out for one poor performance in a poor side, I just don't think he's shown any glimpses yet to make me think there's a player in there since we bought him. Let's see what Howe can do with him, but I'm not so sure. He's definitely shown glimpses mind. He looks tenacious and quick, has picked out a few decent passes which should have been converted. I haven't seen much from a shooting perspective though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Greg said: Definitely a player in there, holds onto the ball too long mind. A few times in the first half he dribbled inside then lost the ball or played an overly safe pass when he had easier options to pass to Willock or Bruno before the dribble. I suspect he was nervous of making any mistakes today, but it meant he offered nothing. Needed to be braver with the ball, as Eddie would say. 34 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: I'm sure under Howe's tutelage he will improve, and will hopefully prove to at least be a useful player. However, I don't see anything to suggest he's going to evolve into a top four level premier league wide forward, which is the level we're aspiring to sustain and build upon. Can't help but feel, in that context, his signing will prove to be a miss just in terms of opportunity cost. Hope he proves me wrong Opportunity cost is a valid shout. That question ultimately boils down to what the club thinks it's got the room to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Has to start on the bench at the moment for me, but when he does play, it has to be from the right based on what I've seen. Pretty much all of his good work for us has come down that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottlob Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 It's easy to make glib comparisons. Some people might say that as a wide midfielder, he plays like Adam Armstrong stacked on the head of Shane Ferguson. Others might argue that all big clubs make signings of this ilk, pointing to Jack Rodwell at Manchester City or Ross Barkley at Chelsea. For my part though he reminds me of one of Bobby Robson's earliest signings, who arrived at Newcastle already having made quite a name for himself, by whom I mean none other than Daniel 'The Wolf' Cordone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gottlob said: It's easy to make glib comparisons. Some people might say that as a wide midfielder, he plays like Adam Armstrong stacked on the head of Shane Ferguson. Others might argue that all big clubs make signings of this ilk, pointing to Jack Rodwell at Manchester City or Ross Barkley at Chelsea. For my part though he reminds me of one of Bobby Robson's earliest signings, who arrived at Newcastle already having made quite a name for himself, by whom I mean none other than Daniel 'The Wolf' Cordone. I’m struggling to see the Cordone comparison tbf - completely different players, ages and price tags Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Still very raw, essentially Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, toon25 said: Still very raw, essentially Yep, his price tag makes you think we were getting a star but he still needs a lot of development and learning. IMO he’s at the impact sub stage of his career. He needs to develop further to be a regular starter. Luckily we have one of the best at getting more from players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 6 hours ago, The Prophet said: Ridiculous targetting him when every one of them were wank today. Inevitable though. Yup, was shit today but gets a pass from me. I thought he’d start today but on the right and by starting both him, Murphy and Willock you’ve removed both natural partnerships on each side of the field which albeit probably didn’t make much difference given how poor we were but it probably didn’t help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Disco said: Yup, was shit today but gets a pass from me. I thought he’d start today but on the right and by starting both him, Murphy and Willock you’ve removed both natural partnerships on each side of the field which albeit probably didn’t make much difference given how poor we were but it probably didn’t help. I imagine he'd benefit more than most from some Trippier tutelage on the right side of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 For me it's gordon or Murphy RWF. Both of them are a waste on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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