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1 minute ago, Arknor said:

Apologies don't work.

There have been celebs who apologised for a tweet a decade ago, and then someone drags up the old coals again....

It's better to remain quiet and let the water flow under the bridge, owning your mistakes doesn't help in the digital age

 

 

 


Alreet, Rishi.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the club made the calculated decision for him to lay low. The people that are already mad at him would've probably said any public apology was an empty gesture and the club forced him to anyway. 

 

Is that baseless conjecture? Sure. No more baseless than 'he doesn't seem sorry enough', though. 

 

This isn't a call out as I have nowhere near the energy to look at old posts but I'd be interested to know if there's much/any crossover between people that still moan about Tonali and people who'd be happy if we somehow got Toney in the summer.

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I don't hate the guy , I'm just so hugely disappointed in the way this all transpired and not having the use of a player of his ability. Without doubt, it damaged us as a team this season.

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7 hours ago, OCOCOL said:


I work in gambling too. You should look up the Epic Foundation - company run by former addicts. People in elite sport, the forces, high pressured city jobs have a larger predisposition to harmful gambling behaviours. It’s thought this is in part due to replicating the highs they face in their professions away from work. 

Yeah, i think this is spot on. Same reason quite a few top athletes struggle with abuse after their carreer. In norway our biggest skistar(Petter Northug) struggled massively after his carreer, and also Claus Lundekvam has been having a rough time. Not gambling i think for both, but it is compareable.

 

 

 

We do however have heavily regulated gambling laws. 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, matta said:

Yeah, i think this is spot on. Same reason quite a few top athletes struggle with abuse after their carreer. In norway our biggest skistar(Petter Northug) struggled massively after his carreer, and also Claus Lundekvam has been having a rough time. Not gambling i think for both, but it is compareable.

 

 

 

We do however have heavily regulated gambling laws. 

 

 

 


I used to have a job getting assisting off shore operators making gambling payouts in NOK that were using other merchant codes. Norway has a big unregulated black market. 

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2 hours ago, joeyt said:

People seem determined to find a reason to really hate him

 

He shouldn't have been betting on football but  as has been mentioned before you're giving young lads millions of pounds and surrounding them with constant betting adverts.

 

As far as we know he stopped betting on football immediately after hearing he was under investigation. A young lad, moving to a new country, not knowing the language and suddenly being banned from his profession for a number of months. He's flawed just like every human but he deserves sympathy.

 

If he's continued to bet after the investigation or bet on games he's been involved in then I think it's a different story but the outrage people seem determined to level towards him seems completely unnecessary at this stage

Supporters are just organic grievance machines.

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5 hours ago, gbandit said:

If anything, that just gives more substance to the fact it’s an addiction rather than some form of sneaky insider trading stuff. An addiction throws logical behaviour out the window


Yeah, there’s no logic in thinking that an addict would just stop betting after getting a move to another club and country. IMO it would be more likely it just gets worse with all the changes in life and added stress.

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41 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:


I used to have a job getting assisting off shore operators making gambling payouts in NOK that were using other merchant codes. Norway has a big unregulated black market. 

Yes, its been huge, and still is! The hazardgames that remain unregulated makes for a huge market. Poker and casino games mainly. 

 

Recently they introduced ip-bans, but im no fan of such regulations. 

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3 hours ago, Arknor said:

Apologies don't work.

There have been celebs who apologised for a tweet a decade ago, and then someone drags up the old coals again....

It's better to remain quiet and let the water flow under the bridge, owning your mistakes doesn't help in the digital age

 

 

 

Agree...there will always be someone somewhere who finds fault no matter what he does. 

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30 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

The total lack of any kind of public comment from him (not his agent) since the ban was announced 

 

That doesn't mean he's not got any guilt or regret. Howe has stated how much he's struggled with it and how cooperative he's been with the whole investigation. That sounds like guilt and regret to me

 

 

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Weird that people think he 'owes' you an apology. There's some needy snowflakes about thinking that you're owed anything from him.

 

He maybe owes Howe an apology, and his teammates. That's it.

 

I crashed a hire van at work the other week, I squared that with my boss but at no point did I think to put out a statement to all our customers to beg their forgiveness.  :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Weird that people think he 'owes' you an apology. There's some needy snowflakes about thinking that you're owed anything from him.

 

He maybe owes Howe an apology, and his teammates. That's it.

 

I crashed a hire van at work the other week, I squared that with my boss but at no point did I think to put out a statement to all our customers to beg their forgiveness.  :lol:

Nee cunt gives a fuck about your van. Hundreds of billions care about NUFC, an institution which Tonali betrayed.

 

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18 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Weird that people think he 'owes' you an apology. There's some needy snowflakes about thinking that you're owed anything from him.

 

He maybe owes Howe an apology, and his teammates. That's it.

 

I crashed a hire van at work the other week, I squared that with my boss but at no point did I think to put out a statement to all our customers to beg their forgiveness.  :lol:

Not quite the same thing there.

 

I'm not saying he owes an apology to anyone but the NUFC managment, but you do hear most of the players saying something in the media one way or another...even if just a standard Chronicle puff piece. The only other player I can recall saying less is Schar

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49 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Weird that people think he 'owes' you an apology. There's some needy snowflakes about thinking that you're owed anything from him.

 

He maybe owes Howe an apology, and his teammates. That's it.

 

I crashed a hire van at work the other week, I squared that with my boss but at no point did I think to put out a statement to all our customers to beg their forgiveness.  :lol:

Anyone else initially read this as “crashed a hire van at work, squared up to my boss, didn’t apologise”? ??

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8 hours ago, gjohnson said:

He does deserve a second chance, but he's not been exactly forthcoming with with expressing regret or guilt.

 

I dont realistcally see him playing for use again. Fully expect him to be back at Milan by summer, or on Starkiller base killing Han Solo

Eddie says he has.

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On 28/03/2024 at 15:16, joeyt said:

 

He hasn't carried on since being found out.

 

Sounds like he has a serious problem but he stopped immediately when he was investigated

 

Dunno.  Feel like he'd have known about investigations when he signed and cracked on anyway. 

 

Speculation on my part obviously. 

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36 minutes ago, Wilson said:

 

Dunno.  Feel like he'd have known about investigations when he signed and cracked on anyway. 

 

Speculation on my part obviously. 

Be curious to know if he bet on Newcastle - remember the yellow at Villa when he just stood when being subbed?

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  • 2 weeks later...

https://theathletic.com/5411357/2024/04/13/premier-league-agent-fees-409m/?source=user_shared_article
 

 

Take Sandro Tonali, Newcastle United’s £55m signing from AC Milan, who is listed under the ‘contract amendment’ category. Tonali is serving a 10-month ban for breaches of betting rules in football and Dan Ashworth, the club’s former director of football, would not say last November if Tonali’s suspension would bring a wage reduction.

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