Sandro Tonali

[Kimbo]

We’ve just finished 12th and lost 17 league games in a season, and frankly there’s a justified pessimistic honk about the place, there’s zero chance of Anderson coming back here. Maybe in 2/3 seasons when Maresca has crashed Man City, if we’ve sorted ourselves out.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 09:56 by Kimbo

[Sidg]

Need this cunt Panorama'd. 

[KaKa]

54 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I get what you’re saying but a lot of the problem of your first para is due to the players around Tonali, not Tonali himself. He’s an elite water carrier who actually has good metrics for progressing the ball. He’s not super creative like a De Bruyne, or as clever in possession like Bruno and Bernardo Silva, but that’s an unfair stick to beat him or anyone with. Tonali has the occasional sloppy pass in him, agreed.

 

Funnily enough, it has nothing to do with him being super creative, clever in possession or occasionally giving the ball away.

 

The biggest issue is that when he plays alone in that deeper position, he has no urgency when we're in possession. He doesn't do a good enough job of finding spaces and making himself available for the ball and demanding it off the centre backs, he just sort of jogs back and forth and is easily covered or gets lost behind opposition players. So often we then see the wingers start dropping deep to get the ball because we can't get any progressive passing through midfield going to get them the ball higher up the pitch often enough. The wingers are then receiving passes in their own half with their back to goal in crowded areas, and everything breaks down.

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, Shearergol said:

Kinda pointless keepers making saves if the team ends up losing too I guess

 

Why do people talk like we lost every single game?

 

We didn't lose every single game, but the patterns of play were typically the same game after game. A lack of cohesion in possession where the midfield struggled to advance the ball, and a vulnerable defensive unit, often where the midfield was getting exploited.

 

So yeah, Tonali has the legs to get around and make some tackles, but it's just not going to count for much if the main issue isn't sorted.

[Menace]

10 minutes ago, Sidg said:

Need this cunt Panorama'd. 

 

It'll make it all funnier when he inevitably throws his toys out of the pram like he does everywhere he goes.

 

Guy's an absolute tool and couldn't think of a better club for him to manage.

[Infinitely Content]

45 minutes ago, STM said:

Its like people are mentioning us signing Anderson merely to wind me up. 

 

That ship has sailed. Hes likely about to sign for MC for 120m on 200k a week and even with Newcastle in his blood, he'd have to be the biggest moron alive to turn that move down.

 

Hes also England's best midfielder in a generation, yes even better than Declan Rice and its utterly heartbreaking. 

 

I still have nothing but pride for what the lad is about to achieve.

I personally think Rice is a level above. Anderson is a great all-rounder but his profile and attributes are kind of 'flavour of the month' due to the current tactical zeitgeist. Rice has that bit extra imo.

[Geogaddi]

The way Tonali has hawed himself about the last few months tells me a lot about him and firms my belief even more that he only ever came here as he knew he was getting banned.

[Optimistic Nut]

I think Anderson is over-rated, would take Tonali any day, but if there was a possibility of bringing him home we need to do it. Need a statement signing to regain some momentum. 

[Infinitely Content]

Big Franck Kessie is better than the lot of them tbh. 

[Mills and Boon]

There's not a hope of us signing Anderson mind. Home ties won't trump literally everything else he'd gain by a move to City

[Mike]

2 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

There's not a hope of us signing Anderson mind. Home ties won't trump literally everything else he'd gain by a move to City

 

Especially since all that home shit will still be there in ten years.

[Mike]

I hope Aston Villa go bust.

[duo]

Wouldn't be happening if Villa hadn't thrown that game - now they can just throw money to fix their problems.

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:57 by duo

[Curva Sud Milano]

Premise: You're right to sell Tonali.

You may not be good at buying but you're the best in Europe at selling... Isak but especially Gordon were two masterclasses in transfers.

Selling Tonali for 100 would be another great move, not because he's not worth it but because there's zero chance Howe will change his position on the pitch. Brescia, AC Milan, Italy, no one has ever deployed Tonali in that Pirlo-esque position, where he had to play as a playmaker and defend like a CB (In the previous season he played on the same line as Bruno and Joelinton).

Sell him and have no regrets.

[Menace]

17 minutes ago, Infinitely Content said:

Big Franck Kessie is better than the lot of them tbh. 

 

I like Kessie but he's been awful for years now.

[Gawalls]

6 minutes ago, duo said:

Wouldn't be happening if Villa hadn't thrown that game - now they can just throw money to fix their problems.

 

 

 

 

 

Probably just me and if it is then fair enough but for £100m I'm not going to lose any sleep, that'll be two players this window we'll have sold for more than we paid, three if hall goes and I suspect at some time soon, maybe Jan livramento will be on that list of us selling for more. I know we have to get better at spending but we're getting better at that side of things and that needed to happen.

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

Premise: You're right to sell Tonali.

You may not be good at buying but you're the best in Europe at selling... Isak but especially Gordon were two masterclasses in transfers.

Selling Tonali for 100 would be another great move, not because he's not worth it but because there's zero chance Howe will change his position on the pitch. Brescia, AC Milan, Italy, no one has ever deployed Tonali in that Pirlo-esque position, where he had to play as a playmaker and defend like a CB (In the previous season he played on the same line as Bruno and Joelinton).

Sell him and have no regrets.

We've just pretty much said the same at the same time in different ways lol

[Si67]

No point in selling if we’re not improving the team.

[Kimbo]

2 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

Premise: You're right to sell Tonali.

You may not be good at buying but you're the best in Europe at selling... Isak but especially Gordon were two masterclasses in transfers.

Selling Tonali for 100 would be another great move, not because he's not worth it but because there's zero chance Howe will change his position on the pitch. Brescia, AC Milan, Italy, no one has ever deployed Tonali in that Pirlo-esque position, where he had to play as a playmaker and defend like a CB (In the previous season he played on the same line as Bruno and Joelinton).

Sell him and have no regrets.

The lad has a bum mentality, get him out the door says I. Your affection for him is misplaced.

[Gawalls]

Just now, Si67 said:

No point in selling if we’re not improving the team.

No point in keeping an unhappy player.

[Nucasol]

44 minutes ago, Sidg said:

Need this cunt Panorama'd. 

Fabrizio Dando’d

Jill Romano’d

 

Either way, some random Serbian hitman doing the Gnocchi Gnonce would be splendid.

[black_n_white]

33 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

The way Tonali has hawed himself about the last few months tells me a lot about him and firms my belief even more that he only ever came here as he knew he was getting banned.

Of course he knew he was eventually going to be banned, when he first joined he didn’t look happy at all.

[gdm]

3 hours ago, cubaricho said:

Don’t be that guy and blame any of this on his fucking wife man.  

I suggest you go look at my last couple of posts in this thread (previous to the one you quoted)  where I rip in to Tonali for having one eye out the door all last season while putting in absolutely shite performances. I can’t wait to get rid of him 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:17 by gdm

[TheBrownBottle]

18 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

Premise: You're right to sell Tonali.

You may not be good at buying but you're the best in Europe at selling... Isak but especially Gordon were two masterclasses in transfers.

Selling Tonali for 100 would be another great move, not because he's not worth it but because there's zero chance Howe will change his position on the pitch. Brescia, AC Milan, Italy, no one has ever deployed Tonali in that Pirlo-esque position, where he had to play as a playmaker and defend like a CB (In the previous season he played on the same line as Bruno and Joelinton).

Sell him and have no regrets.

Given the non-stop successes for the Azzuri with Tonali in the middle, clearly the issue with Tonali is Eddie Howe. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just remembered, Howe made him captain towards the end of the season. It was right after the quite abont only wanting players who are committed to being here. Nicely thrown back in his face by Tonali.