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1 minute ago, gbandit said:

London club primarily allowed them to attract top talent. Levy was a good businessman in terms of making money and growing revenue. He realised that getting a state of the art stadium would push them on. It’s about as simple as that I’d say 

We desperately need a new stadium if that's the differential 

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9 minutes ago, duo said:

At least with Man U you can argue that having been champions for many years they have fans all over the globe.  What have Spurs done to warrant being able to spend such sums?  I don't get where they get the revenue from.  

They use the stadium for boxing events is one thing I can think of

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38 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

True, but setting statistics asside he's been a near ever-present part of a central midfield that, whilst great on paper and reputation, has consistently underperformed and been dominated by other teams all season.

 

See I disagree. I thought he was fine. So many games I watched and thought he was good, then come on here and get told otherwise. Definitely happy in a bubble now, but I'd be surprised if we get anyone as good as him. 

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56 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

True, but setting statistics asside he's been a near ever-present part of a central midfield that, whilst great on paper and reputation, has consistently underperformed and been dominated by other teams all season.

This speaks to a larger systematic issue and to me the single, biggest criticism against Howe.

 

He hasn't been good for most of this season but like a lot of people he was set up to fail this season.

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33 minutes ago, duo said:

At least with Man U you can argue that having been champions for many years they have fans all over the globe.  What have Spurs done to warrant being able to spend such sums?  I don't get where they get the revenue from.  

 

i don’t know how old you are or if you go to games home and away, so I don’t know what your baseline perceptions are of other clubs. I think your perception of Spurs is a bit…underinformed. Let me bore you to tears as I have done for so many more on here…


We’ve always generated lots of money. 1997/98 was the first year of the Deloitte list and  probably our lowest point since the late 70s. We finished 14th and went out of both domestic cups straight away.  You finished just above us but were in the Champions League having just finished 2nd twice in a row. You also got to the FA Cup final and WF in the League Cup. Your turnover was 2nd of the English teams at £49.2M, more than anyone except Man U…yet we were still 7th in England, not too far behind with £31.2M.

 

We’re a really big club with loads of fans - yes, all over the globe but nothing like on Man U’s scale - and we have been since about 1950 at the latest. That’s the first point. Then we revamped every part of the club to try to compete with behemoths like Man U and countries like Chelsea and Man City without just having somebody pump money into us. That’s what we’ve done. Buying and/or developing young and cheap then selling high, building a new youth setup, building a new stadium that can generate income outside football and from the community. Loads of my daughters’ friends are going to the Sixth Form Academy on the site of the old Paxton Rd end next year. The fans pay a fucking fortune too :lol:

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2 hours ago, joeyt said:

A perverse part of me would prefer him to go to Spurs rather than one of the better clubs knowing that he's unlikely to achieve much there

This all reminds me of Moussa Sissoko. He too was writing love letters to all the big clubs in England, only to end up at Spurs. 

 

Sissoko didn't do anything of note at Spurs and his career eventually petered out into nothingness. I hope the same happens to Tonali.

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I’m not arsed in the slightest he’s leaving. 
 

  • Good fee is guaranteed. Don’t care where he goes either. 
  • I’ve never warmed to him tbh. He's a fucking odd character imho. 
  • He’s nowhere near Bruno’s level. 
  • Easily replaceable given his form last season. 
  • He has zero leadership qualities so would be less than useless without Bruno who’s bound to be off himself over the next couple of years.
  • He’s showed zero gratitude for the faith we showed in him after the gambling ban.
  • He clearly knew what was around the corner in that regard when he came here from Milan.
  • I genuinely cannot recall 6 games where he’s grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and ran the show. 

I hope Spurs house the cunt next door to a casino tbh. 
 

Get fucked you graceless, character-less, shithouse. Hope his lass leaves him an’ all. The prick. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

 

i don’t know how old you are or if you go to games home and away, so I don’t know what your baseline perceptions are of other clubs. I think your perception of Spurs is a bit…underinformed. Let me bore you to tears as I have done for so many more on here…


We’ve always generated lots of money. 1997/98 was the first year of the Deloitte list and  probably our lowest point since the late 70s. We finished 14th and went out of both domestic cups straight away.  You finished just above us but were in the Champions League having just finished 2nd twice in a row. You also got to the FA Cup final and WF in the League Cup. Your turnover was 2nd of the English teams at £49.2M, more than anyone except Man U…yet we were still 7th in England, not too far behind with £31.2M.

 

We’re a really big club with loads of fans - yes, all over the globe but nothing like on Man U’s scale - and we have been since about 1950 at the latest. That’s the first point. Then we revamped every part of the club to try to compete with behemoths like Man U and countries like Chelsea and Man City without just having somebody pump money into us. That’s what we’ve done. Buying and/or developing young and cheap then selling high, building a new youth setup, building a new stadium that can generate income outside football and from the community. Loads of my daughters’ friends are going to the Sixth Form Academy on the site of the old Paxton Rd end next year. The fans pay a fucking fortune too :lol:


Yeah, but apart from all that, what have you actually done ? 

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13 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I’m sorry, I might have missed something. Why are we hating Sandro now?

Yeah some of the reactions have honestly been very strange to read and seems very misplaced.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

 

i don’t know how old you are or if you go to games home and away, so I don’t know what your baseline perceptions are of other clubs. I think your perception of Spurs is a bit…underinformed. Let me bore you to tears as I have done for so many more on here…


We’ve always generated lots of money. 1997/98 was the first year of the Deloitte list and  probably our lowest point since the late 70s. We finished 14th and went out of both domestic cups straight away.  You finished just above us but were in the Champions League having just finished 2nd twice in a row. You also got to the FA Cup final and WF in the League Cup. Your turnover was 2nd of the English teams at £49.2M, more than anyone except Man U…yet we were still 7th in England, not too far behind with £31.2M.

 

We’re a really big club with loads of fans - yes, all over the globe but nothing like on Man U’s scale - and we have been since about 1950 at the latest. That’s the first point. Then we revamped every part of the club to try to compete with behemoths like Man U and countries like Chelsea and Man City without just having somebody pump money into us. That’s what we’ve done. Buying and/or developing young and cheap then selling high, building a new youth setup, building a new stadium that can generate income outside football and from the community. Loads of my daughters’ friends are going to the Sixth Form Academy on the site of the old Paxton Rd end next year. The fans pay a fucking fortune too :lol:

 

All true....and just like Spurs, ManU only developed into one of the biggest clubs from about 1950. Newcastle United - and Sunderland - had (on moreorless every metric) benn much bigger clubs than either prior to that.

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Just now, TomYam said:

 

All true....and just like Spurs, ManU only developed into one of the biggest clubs from about 1950. Newcastle United - and Sunderland - had (on moreorless every metric) benn much bigger clubs than either prior to that.


Liverpool too, famously.

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21 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

I’m not arsed in the slightest he’s leaving. 
 

  • Good fee is guaranteed. Don’t care where he goes either. 
  • I’ve never warmed to him tbh. He's a fucking odd character imho. 
  • He’s nowhere near Bruno’s level. 
  • Easily replaceable given his form last season. 
  • He has zero leadership qualities so would be less than useless without Bruno who’s bound to be off himself over the next couple of years.
  • He’s showed zero gratitude for the faith we showed in him after the gambling ban.
  • He clearly knew what was around the corner in that regard when he came here from Milan.
  • I genuinely cannot recall 6 games where he’s grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and ran the show. 

I hope Spurs house the cunt next door to a casino tbh. 
 

Get fucked you graceless, character-less, shithouse. Hope his lass leaves him an’ all. The prick. 

 

 

 

 

This is what football is all about. My wife was shaking her head with some of my comments about Isak yesterday.

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20 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

I’m not arsed in the slightest he’s leaving.

 

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Get fucked you graceless, character-less, shithouse. Hope his lass leaves him an’ all. The prick. 

 

 

Glad you're not arsed, would hate to see what you're like if you were a bit ticked off about it

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19 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I’m sorry, I might have missed something. Why are we hating Sandro now?

He was lauded as the potentially the best midfielder in Europe the season before last with our midfield 3 considered the best in the PL. 

 

Suddenly he’s shite? 

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2 hours ago, Abacus said:

I am not bothered if Tonali goes for a decent fee.  At first I thought he and Bruno got in each others way, but it clicked in 24/25 with a few tweaks.

 

However the key point was when Bruno was out you expected him to be the driving force of the team and to lead by example, yet he didn't. I've no doubt he'll do pretty well elsewhere, but he hasn't for us for long enough. I'm actually tired of him. 

 

Even when it worked in 24/25 I always felt it was just two very good midfielders playing in the same side rather than any sort of great partnership. Him and Bruno have never really fully worked together as well as I'd hoped. Tonali even when he was brilliant has always felt like he's on a slightly different wavelength than most of the side to be honest. 

 

That's not a criticism of Tonali I just wouldn't be surprised if collectively the midfield operates better as a unit next season even if his replacement is an 'inferior' player. 

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