ExiledGeordie Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, toontownman said: He must have hit the post 8 times. Narrow margins. Is Murphy on relatively cheap wages too? As much as we have seen the ruthless Howe on show with ASM, there is definitely a hint of wanting to give players their go in the CL after last season and not breaking the harmony of the squad. Murphy works hard, is a toon fan, is well liked and counts as a HG. Who knows with this team and Howes coaching though. Up until last year I would have said RW was Miggy's worst position with LW and CAM above RW. I really wanted him played like he was at Atlanta behind the striker. Who knows who might emerge somewhere different next year or who will level up again. Murphy on late season form is somewhat similar to Willock (although more a poundland version) if he could consistently hit the target and score with the chances he creates he would be a monster player and huge asset. I still hope we get a LB, CB and RW/AM. However, Depth wise in the squad, especially if we pick up a few injuries to starters, I would be more concerned with CB and possibly Striker than anywhere else. If Schar and Botman went down, I don't want to be left with Lascelles and Burn. Likewise while they can fill in, I don't want Gordon or Joelinton really filling in up front. It's probably the lesser of two evils with CB being the biggest need. However, out of all the signings we could make on the park, a top quality LB would be the most transformational. I think its pivotal for Barnes too. We have depth at LB in Burn, Targett, Trippier, Dummett and Manquillo (Currently) but its not top level. RW would be a bonus, a younger versatile striker (PL ready) would be an even bigger bonus. Wonder if there actually was genuine interest in Daniel Jebbison? Anyways if we can grab a quality LB and CB with whats left of the window that would be fantastic. Anything on top would be a huge bonus. Definitely agree on the left back and right CB is a concern with injuries. A R CB with pace would be ideal. Seems like Livramento will eventually come in so that’s RB sorted. A young adaptable forward would be good to add strength up front. It’ll be interesting to see how they recruit from here. Edited July 21, 2023 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Shak said: Not sure where Joelinton will play most of his football this season but if all goes expected we basically have to fill the 3 midfield spots and 2 wing positions with... Bruno, Tonali, Longstaff, Joelinton, Willock, Gordon, Barnes, Almiron, Anderson and Murphy. That's really light IMO. Anderson should really be going on loan and Murphy isn't someone I have any interest in seeing as anything other than a shithouse substitute. We really need another winger IMO. You're wondering where big Joe will play then list him with the other TEN players for 5 spots. He'll play there then. Seeing as you're counting the two front wide players in a 433 in your 5 spots you need to add Isak to the list. So that's 11. 12 if we get Tino and Eddie fancies pushing him up there. Anderson is a CM by desire. We'll see how he develops but, again, Eddie rates him and Murphy's just had his best spell. We don't need anymore wingers. Edited July 21, 2023 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Assuming - big assumption- that we get Tino in, how many more incomings and what type do we actually need this window? We have to consider team spirit and familiarity of our play/ time for new players to settle. I’d be happy with an addition/ competition at CB and a striker - one for the future type. Together with FFP restraints we’d be able to manage that? Also have to imagine we manage to move one or two more players out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Tsunami said: Assuming - big assumption- that we get Tino in, how many more incomings and what type do we actually need this window? We have to consider team spirit and familiarity of our play/ time for new players to settle. I’d be happy with an addition/ competition at CB and a striker - one for the future type. Together with FFP restraints we’d be able to manage that? Also have to imagine we manage to move one or two more players out. I reckon one more after Barnes and Livaramento. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Can't see a LB now. I'd say a RCB and a young forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Always sound so knowledgeable after the fact, don't they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Tierney would be nice, if he were one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Burn and Targett? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 young lb rumours are Ait-Nouri, Ian Maatsen types. Think we’ve decided against a big outlay on a LB. Doubt we are looking at Tierney anymore, as Livramento is versatile. The money will be spent on a CB, with a young LB on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! We had the best defence in the league last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! Our first choice LB was part of the joint best defence in the league last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Holmesy said: Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! We don’t know do we? EH might see livramento is a left back, he might have had conversations with Trippier about moving to left back and he might even be signing livramento with a view to him playing right wing. I’m sure it’ll all come together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 The issue is the lack of left backs available IMO. It's the one position in the world where there seems a drought, certainly in the bracket we are after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, STM said: The issue is the lack of left backs available IMO. It's the one position in the world where there seems a drought, certainly in the bracket we are after. Completely agree, even the top class one who is a available in Tierney has massive question marks over fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Burn and Targett? Think it’s clear that’s the case. Though I’d quite like to move Targett and replace with better and less wage. We’ve outgrown him far quicker than imagined and we really stretched what we offered him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! Right back and possibly even CB are bigger issues than LB. Trippier gets crocked for any length of time we are absolutely fucked. There’s a big drop in quality if either Botman and Schar are out for any length of time too. At LB we have Burn and Targett. Maybe not quite of the same quality as the rest of the back four but both very, very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Someone in the other thread mentioned how bad the disrespect Schar gets. I think the disrespect Burn gets is even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I'd you sign a first choice left back it frees up Burn more as a CB option, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, reefatoon said: Someone in the other thread mentioned how bad the disrespect Schar gets. I think the disrespect Burn gets is even worse. He’s been brilliant as a defender. No denying that. We are gonna need a left back that can get up and down the park who can get involved in these famous Barnes 1-2’s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Surely we can’t go into this season with no first choice left back?! It’s arguably the position we’ve needed to strengthen most and we’re about to sign another right back. I know ‘trust the process’ and all that shit but the full back situation is a bit of a head scratcher! 17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Burn and Targett? This ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, gdm said: He’s been brilliant as a defender. No denying that. We are gonna need a left back that can get up and down the park who can get involved in these famous Barnes 1-2’s Totally agree. It’s a position to look at and if we can bring one in, all the better. I just feel Burn didn’t get anywhere near the credit he should have for how he played last season. Some of the stuff you would read was ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, gdm said: He’s been brilliant as a defender. No denying that. We are gonna need a left back that can get up and down the park who can get involved in these famous Barnes 1-2’s I really don’t see this as a tactic we will pursue hence why I think Burn and Targett will be who we go with this season. Obviously we need some width and dynamism on the left, but the right side is where we attack / create and shifting the left back to a makeshift back 3 is how we play. It’s similar to what Man City and Liverpool now do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Presuming Barnes and Livramento are done deals I think we will sign another three players after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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