Geordie Ahmed Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I'm not sure our squad is really thin We have 2 players for every position, due to versatility we have some flexibility in this area The quality of those players could get better but if it means it takes place over a few years rather than a sticky plaster job now then I'd much rather wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) I went in to the window thinking we needed improvements to the first team in LB, CM and RW plus cover for Schar. If the window closes and we have Burn and Targett at left back and Almiron and Murphy on the right then I won’t see it as a successful window. Edited July 23, 2023 by Matt1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 There’s about 6 weeks of transfer window left, it’s way too early for that conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: I went in to the window thinking we needed improvements to the first team in LB, CM and RW plus cover for Schar. If the window closes and we have Burn and Targett at left back and Almiron and Murphy on the right then I won’t see it as a successful window. Everyone who didn’t go around saying “we have more money - this ffp line is just ((insert blank))” knew this window was going to be tight. Expecting all of the above positions to be tackled in my opinion was always crazy for this window. Edited July 23, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) We don’t demand a club that wins, we demand the club buys all the players I like Edited July 23, 2023 by AJ9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Can’t wait for the actual football to be back so the transfer window can take a back seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Careful and responsible building over several years makes perfect sense to me. The vultures are circling and we’ll get fucking murdered if we put a foot wrong. Add quality when it’s available and don’t get the collective knickers in a twist if we don’t finish top four next season. starting to look like there’s unrealistic expectations and a sense of entitlement appearing here. What happened to ‘we want a team that tries’? we want a team that tries, has a sensible plan and is playing the long game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) If it goes as expected - Tonali plus at least two others - its a good window, especially when factoring in FFP. We'll have added a world class player and fleshed out the squad with the extra CL games and have lost one good but unreliable player and reserves in effect. If windows continue on like that, which they quite likely will, we'll be there after a few more. That plus a fully bedded in Gordon. I cant get vexed. Edited July 23, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, AJ9 said: We don’t demand a club that wins, we demand the club buys all the players I like And also doesn’t sell any players I like either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Sounds more like we're confusing assessments with demands tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I still think we'll do something with RW and LB before the window closes. With RW we might have to move on one of Murphy or Amiron similar to the ASM/Barnes thing. We'll hopefully be able to do more as well when we start moving on some of these: Darlow, Lascelles, Kraft, Manquillo, Lewis, Ritchie, Fraser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I think we'll get Livramento / or whatever alternative and that'll be it IMO. That's what I think "the plan" is. Anything else will be either an U21 signing, a response to any serious injuries before the deadline or if someone on "the list" becomes available unexpectedly. Once we get the fullback signing in we probably need to concentrate on shifting some of the excess - Hayden, Hendrick, Fraser, Manquillo or Krafth, Watts, Lewis and at least one of the keepers, maybe two. Ashby could probably do with a loan spell too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 If we can’t get Hayden out conventionally because of his injuries, perhaps he should be offered an U21 coaching role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, James said: If we can’t get Hayden out conventionally because of his injuries, perhaps he should be offered an U21 coaching role Why? We don’t want an unnecessary coach + coaching salary at the club. He might be shit at coaching or not want to do that? Might as well just release him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Will we not have already written his wages off by now, as we've done with Hendrick (and probably Fraser)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rich said: Will we not have already written his wages off by now, as we've done with Hendrick (and probably Fraser)? Maybe but that write-off is still in the 3 year period so that’s not really helping us yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Maybe but that write-off is still in the 3 year period so that’s not really helping us yet. But would there be any benefit in releasing him? Would we not just end up paying off the rest of his contract up front and completely eliminating any chance of getting a fee for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich said: But would there be any benefit in releasing him? Would we not just end up paying off the rest of his contract up front and completely eliminating any chance of getting a fee for him? Yeah, I wouldn’t release him- it was just instead of putting him on a coaching contract as suggested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: Yeah, I wouldn’t release him- it was just instead of putting him on a coaching contract as suggested. I think you've made the mistake of engaging with a James suggestion there, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 We really should be thinking of Gordon as a new signing. Talk of a need for a RW needs to stop. Barnes will be LW, Gordon competing for RW or through the middle from the bench if a game needs this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Yeah I think that’s us done for wingers. Barnes and Jow on the left, Isak if needs be. Miggy, Murphy and Gordon on the right. We’re only getting another if one more is sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Tend to agree. Could make a case for signing a RB, CB and LB in the remainder of the window but not sure whether we will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I think we're a player light on the wing, personally. Barnes, Almiron, Gordon and Murphy is not a good enough group for us to be competitive in Europe and challenge for top four IMO. One more (on whatever side we don't see Gordon playing) and Murphy being pushed to 5th choice winger would look vastly better. I get that Joelinton can play LW, but if that's the plan then it leaves us looking a bit light on options in CM. Don't think we'll see Isak on the left to start games, more something we only do when we're chasing a goal. He'll be the main man at CF. Wilson will get plenty of games giving Isak a rest and will be a fantastic option off the bench either seeing games out or chasing a goal. Our style of play means we need quality depth more than most IMO and I do think we're light. A couple of injuries to key players and we could get very stretched. I think we're fine to go into the start of the season with the present options so I wouldn't be surprised to see another wide man be something that we do late in the window rather than a priority. Maybe Howe has confidence that Murphy and/or Anderson are going to be able to play a lot and contribute positively, if so then maybe it's not a need. If love to see Anderson go on loan and start every game in the Championship but maybe we think he's ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Aye, said it in another thread but our wingers were our most rotated players last season and with good reason. I'd hooe there's a desire to ensure there's good quality in the depth we have in that position as there's a significant step down in quality after first change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Not disagreeing that we’ve needed improvements on the wings, if Gordon can play there to a high standard we might be ok. However, the reason there was barely any rotation in our defence was because we largely stayed injury free and had barely anyone to cover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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