NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Shak]

I can see why Eddie would want Guehi and Mbeumo over trying to bring someone in from a different league, we are very clearly looking for players to come in as first choice in those positions and those two are about as sure a thing as you can get in terms of hitting the ground running.

 

Positions like backup striker or another midfield option is where I’d like to see us looking to unearth gems from abroad that maybe carry a bit more risk but will come cheaper than buying established PL talent.

[AJ9]

45 minutes ago, LFEE said:

30&30 for me. Scout properly not lazily.

Same for me. For the reasons everyone thinks Mbeumo would be great (covers 2 positions) it also leaves us short in two areas if he gets injured 

[toontownman]

8 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

I'm assuming neither your CM or Striker are going to start? I mean, who you dropping 😂😂😂

Aye "ready to start". Not a youth Howe will take a year to blood in lol

[NWMag]

51 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Does that not just mean we run Mbeumo into the ground though, instead of Isak?

 

 

 

I don’t think so, we can just plan ahead and rest them at different times. I.e if we had 3 games a week, Isak could play 2, Mbuemo 2 (1 RW, 1 ST) and Murphy 2 

[ponsaelius]

Fwiw I don't think getting players from Europe is necessarily that much cheaper.

 

Akliouche was one that was floated as a right sided option (I think this might go by the wayside with Mitchell being pied off) but I think he'd still be 40 million+

 

Khusanov ended up costing City 40 million euros in the end and he's hardly hit the ground running (another one Mitchell was determined to get).

 

The wages are often less initially - this is definitely true - but recruitment is a small world these days with all the data available.amd most clubs know the values of their players. If you want quality you have to pay it.

[janpawel]

Whatever happened to Bakayoko? Had a poor season this year? 

[Optimistic Nut]

The players a level above Guehi & Mbuemo go to Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal for £80m each and/or £250k a week wages. The £20-35m bracket are the ones that are likely mid-table players who may in 2-3 years become £60-80m, but don't really help us where we are now as a club whose next stage is to break the top 3 and show to Isak, Tonali, etc that they don't have to go to Real Madrid, Arsenal, etc to challenge for titles. That's why these go to the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth. 

 

The Guehis and Mbuemos are pretty much bang in that sweet spot of improving our team, being affordable and helping us into the top 3. 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 16:35 by Optimistic Nut

[Deuce]

2 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Whatever happened to Bakayoko? Had a poor season this year? 

Good shout 

[duo]

I can't see us buying Mbuemo - don't recall seeing him track bad to help the defence 

[54]

37 minutes ago, JT24 said:

@54 time for your transfer tracker?

[Stottie]

26 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

To put Mbeumo's goals into context, quite a few were penalties. Which he probably won't have here.

 

I really like him but would love to see what that money gets you on the continent.

The classic criticism of Mbeumo is that he's just on a hot streak, which is (also) kind of suggested with stats because his goals scored exceeds his xG by the most of any player in the league. 

However, his goals scored number is not much more than a more nerdy stat called his xGOT number, which is the quality of the actual shots he took. xG is about the quality of chance, based on shot position, and applies to "the average striker". xGOT is the quality of the strikes taken by that player, regardless of whether it was an easy or difficult chance. Mbeumo's xGOT exceeding his xG says to me that he's a good finisher.

 

Penalties are very high in xG, so someone scoring lots of them will not exceed xG by very much. This suggests Mbeumo's total is not heavily pen dependent.

https://www.fotmob.com/en/leagues/47/stats/season/23685/players/expected_goalsontarget/premier-league

 

Isak's total exceeds his xGOT by three, suggesting a couple of em were saveable. That chipped pen that seemed to go through Matt Sels and left him tangled in the net certainly was.

[andycap]

We are getting too spoilt me thinks. 

Mbuemo and Guehi would be brilliant additions we could then go and get dcl on a free. 

Then all we'd have to worry about is centre mid. 

[MagPar]

3 hours ago, Displayname said:

Think its going to be hard to find a decent backup to Isak. Do we even want someone that is happy to just be a pure backup? That almost certainly knows that he will never be the first choice as long as Isak is here? 

 

Thats one of the reasons why I find Mbeumo such a perfect fit. He has also shown that he can handle a heavy workload. Played almost every minute for Brentford this season.

 

 

 

I miss the good old days when everybody played with at least 2 up front. 

 

Put crisps back in their normal coloured bags too. I still regularly open a bag of cheese n onion only to smell bloody salt n vinegar 😋. 

[SteV]

40 minutes ago, duo said:

I can't see us buying Mbuemo - don't recall seeing him track bad to help the defence 

Rewatch Isak’s goal at home to them this season. See who’s in the middle of their defence that slips allowing Isak to bundle it in.

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, MagPar said:

Nobody likes smarmy comments bro. Not cool.

 

a) I wasn't being smarmy. Got a "lol" back from him, so there 😜 and... 

 

b).... 

 

[nufc123]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

We are getting too spoilt me thinks. 

Mbuemo and Guehi would be brilliant additions

Feeling a little bit the same, but at the same time I think we can do better/different. Both great players.

[nufc123]

48 minutes ago, duo said:

I can't see us buying Mbuemo - don't recall seeing him track bad to help the defence 

Isnt he like the hardest working winger in the league?

[TRon]

1 hour ago, ponsaelius said:

Fwiw I don't think getting players from Europe is necessarily that much cheaper.

 

Akliouche was one that was floated as a right sided option (I think this might go by the wayside with Mitchell being pied off) but I think he'd still be 40 million+

 

Khusanov ended up costing City 40 million euros in the end and he's hardly hit the ground running (another one Mitchell was determined to get).

 

The wages are often less initially - this is definitely true - but recruitment is a small world these days with all the data available.amd most clubs know the values of their players. If you want quality you have to pay it.

 

 

Khusanov will turn out to be a top CB IMO, he was on our radar for good reason I reckon. Players like this sometimes need to mature to see what they are capable of. Just look at Ekiteke. 

[Toonjam88]

1 hour ago, duo said:

I can't see us buying Mbuemo - don't recall seeing him track bad to help the defence 

Every time I’ve watched him, which granted isn’t loads, I’ve seen him track back loads. He is the perfect Howe player 

[Dr. TC]

1 minute ago, Toonjam88 said:

Every time I’ve watched him, which granted isn’t loads, I’ve seen him track back loads. He is the perfect Howe player 

Yeah, he certainly did against us

[MagPar]

3 hours ago, Menace said:

An absolute nothing trophy a few years ago now gets more money than the champions league. Modern football is rotten.

To the fucking core my friend. 

[Sibierski]

£60m for Mbeumo is a clear, leave and move on. Let Man Utd spend that on him.

[STM]

60m for Mbeumo is a bargain.

[Pilko]

I think £60m for Mbuemo is about right, depends if we're able to balance that with the other signings we need to make from the overall budget though. No good if we still don't get a centre back or a keeper.

[SteV]

 

So we’re all agreed then?