NUFC Transfer Rumours

[The College Dropout]

27 minutes ago, Cronky said:

I don't think pundits in general have absorbed the realities of our financial position in relation to FFP. They see the wealth of the owners and assume that we're going to do a City or a Chelsea because that's what's happened before in this situation.

 

Our commercial revenue is poor, we can't generate much by player sales, and we've neared the limit of what's allowed by FFP due to our spend over the last two seasons. We still can't compete with the big six when it comes to player salaries, and the so all in all the top targets are beyond us.

Aye.

 

And he's also right (but missing the FFP context). Anyone looking on the outside would think "mega rich owners, now in the CL.. even if they want to be sensible get 3-4 'top' players in, maybe another 2-3 top-level youngsters and attack everyone".

 

Tonali aside... a team of West Ham's level could sign who we have signed.

 

But that's the reality of FFP. It will be the limiting factor in what we can do for a long time. And.. I've said this before and it's made people angry. The only way we get a good level of freedom from FFP (without cheating) is to sell a star player or two for mega bucks (and when their remaining amortisation cost is say <20m).

 

Until then.. we chip away at it. A few commercial deals at better and better rates and we invest the maximum we can.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, BlazeT44 said:

 

Rumor this morning that West Ham want him to replace Cresswell.

 

But part of me thinks if that was true, they'd have tried 85M + Tierney for Rice...? Before accepting the £105M

Probably better for FFP this way.

 

AND... West Ham transfer approach has been shambolic. They don't know what they are doing.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, sushimonster85 said:

Think Arsenal were never going to part with Tierney that early in the window. Now they know what they have it's far more likely. 

Aye they've not sold much so far.

 

 

You would expect a few of KT, Balogun, ESR or Vieira to get sold. All are still there.

 

They seem to be waiting out and hoping for big fees Soton style.

[BlazeT44]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Probably better for FFP this way.

 

AND... West Ham transfer approach has been shambolic. They don't know what they are doing.

 

Very true RE: FFP. Good point. Not many player + cash swaps these days. But don't see them taking advantage of the FFP freedom the £105M provides, like what Villa did with the Grealish money...

[The Prophet]

It's exactly how Liverpool operated in the early years of Klopp.

[MagMal]

We need a young striker to learn from Wilson and provide cover for him and Isak, I have horrible visons of history repeating itself when we were only left with Jon Dal Tommason to cover upfront and out of position 

[gdm]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

That's exactly what Klopp and Liverpool did

 

Robertson, Mane, Firmino, Salah, etc, were hardly household names when they joined Liverpool.

It’s here at 1:01 and it’s not as bad as seeing it written down he’s saying it as a question to Kendall rather than a statement of fact 

[Ben]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Probably better for FFP this way.

 

AND... West Ham transfer approach has been shambolic. They don't know what they are doing.

It's almost as though the entire club shuts when the season ends then the staff turn up with a week till the season starts, do a head count and start chucking offers in 

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

It's exactly how Liverpool operated in the early years of Klopp.

I mean.. it's not. Only if you look at it in a 1-dimensional manner.

 

Our approach is unique because our context is unique. There's nothing like this in the history of the sport.

[nemtizz]

Hope we consult other clubs and Jamie Carragher before making signings in the future.

[christ]

46 minutes ago, MagMal said:

We need a young striker to learn from Wilson and provide cover for him and Isak, I have horrible visons of history repeating itself when we were only left with Jon Dal Tommason to cover upfront and out of position 

We’re not signing anyone of any quality to be third choice, so at that stage you’re just taking up a squad place for the sake of it.

[WilliamPS]

Pundits have to say something even when there’s nothing to say so not worth reading too much into Carragher

 

It is true the club has a very specific profile; age 20-25, up to £50m, from clubs that need to sell. This does contrast with Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City and who go after more established players and will pay bigger fees. Nothing controversial in stating that. 

[MrRaspberryJam]

He hasnt even said anything bad at all. 

 

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“He’s looking at players who he thinks ‘they’ve got great potential and I’m a great coach, I’m going to make them even better’. But I don’t think they’re the type of signings that the rest of the Premier League would make.”

 

The bit in bold is purely a compliment to our manager and our new signings.

 

The bit in italics is likely because our FFP. Harvey Barnes for example fits into our budget/restrictions, whereas the clubs we want to be competing against are probably able to afford to spend a bit more on better.

[Tiresias]

Anyone who thinks "But I don’t think they’re the type of signings that the rest of the Premier League would make" is insulting us and not them is has way too much respect for the rest of the leagues competence like 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Tiresias

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[GeordieDazzler]

I assume Arsenal don’t want to strengthen us which is fair enough 

[TRon]

34 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

I assume Arsenal don’t want to strengthen us which is fair enough 

 

If they would rather take less money from Sociedad then fair enough. I can't see how they would offer a better deal than us, so can only assume Arsenal would prefer to sell him abroad.

 

Or maybe we just don't think he's worth it.

[The Butcher]

Loan with obligation and meaning he can't play against Arsenal this season. It should suit them and us.

[Mazzy]

8 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Loan with obligation and meaning he can't play against Arsenal this season. It should suit them and us.

 

Only in a scenario where Aresnal are guaranteed to finish above us. Wouldn't seem so smart if they strengthen us with a loan player and we finish above them. Unlikely I know but its possible.

[STM]

5m loan with a 20m obligation if he's available for 20+games, would be perfect. 

[Cronky]

6 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

Only in a scenario where Aresnal are guaranteed to finish above us. Wouldn't seem so smart if they strengthen us with a loan player and we finish above them. Unlikely I know but its possible.

 

I don't think it's all that unlikely, but so far none of the big six have sold or loaned us a player and I don't think that'll change.

[LFEE]

8 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think it's all that unlikely, but so far none of the big six have sold or loaned us a player and I don't think that'll change.

Exactly. They will just dick us around. Hall being the latest example you’d imagine. 

[PauloGeordio]

14 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think it's all that unlikely, but so far none of the big six have sold or loaned us a player and I don't think that'll change.

Bet it would for Maguire & McTominay 

[LFEE]

5 hours ago, gdm said:

It’s here at 1:01 and it’s not as bad as seeing it written down he’s saying it as a question to Kendall rather than a statement of fact 

Thought Kendall on that was pretty spot on with everything. 

[Alberto2005]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Thought Kendall on that was pretty spot on with everything. 

Aye she spoke well.