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[oldtype]

I will continue to tell myself that if we want to switch gears and bid for players the top six don't want, we could get bodies through the door in a hurry.

 

Surely they wouldn't have let Longstaff go if they weren't confident they could get in a replacement at that level on relatively short order if they had to.  

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I find it hard to believe that the targets themselves are the problem when most of them fit right in with the coups we've already pulled off plenty of times up until June last year.

 

Anything is possible but the bottom line is that something has changed in our ability to get deals done.

I think they are, I mean we glaze our recruitment team and the deserve praise but we tend to miss important context when discussing our business. 

 

Let's have a look at a couple of examples. 

 

Bruno, Bruno was a known commodity for people who watch European football, playing at one of the biggest clubs in France and in the CL. we got him because we struck when nobody else could get him. Towards the end of a January window which are usually quieter. 

 

Isak, Isak was another known player playing a good sized club in Spain who qualify for Europe on a regular basis. We got him because nobody was willing to take a punt at that price. 

 

Now if we fast forward to today those conditions don't really apply to our targeting. 

 

Huijsen we went for Huijsen when he had a breakout year and was linked to all of the cartel clubs, ended up going to real

 

Delap, breakout your linked firmly to at least two cartel clubs and went to one of them. 

 

Mbuemo, linked to a cartel club after a stellar year. 

 

I think our targeting has changed and we are trying to mix it up with those cartel club, and we simply can't compete with them on the financial package

[Zero]

Prior to mid July it’s the “right player, right price” direction together with incompetence that resulted so many failure.

 

Afterwards its purely panic mode operation + not enough preparation work done for such scenario

 

everyone within the management deserves sticks for this. Howe inclusive.

[Yorkie]

5 minutes ago, oldtype said:

I will continue to tell myself that if we want to switch gears and bid for players the top six don't want, we could get bodies through the door in a hurry.

 

Surely they wouldn't have let Longstaff go if they weren't confident they could get in a replacement at that level on relatively short order if they had to.  

 

We've already demonstrated twice that we can. 

 

Reminder again also that Elanga is still comfortably the most expensive and highest profile signing made by anyone outside the cartel.

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think they are, I mean we glaze our recruitment team and the deserve praise but we tend to miss important context when discussing our business. 

 

Let's have a look at a couple of examples. 

 

Bruno, Bruno was a known commodity for people who watch European football, playing at one of the biggest clubs in France and in the CL. we got him because we struck when nobody else could get him. Towards the end of a January window which are usually quieter. 

 

Isak, Isak was another known player playing a good sized club in Spain who qualify for Europe on a regular basis. We got him because nobody was willing to take a punt at that price. 

 

Now if we fast forward to today those conditions don't really apply to our targeting. 

 

Huijsen we went for Huijsen when he had a breakout year and was linked to all of the cartel clubs, ended up going to real

 

Delap, breakout your linked firmly to at least two cartel clubs and went to one of them. 

 

Mbuemo, linked to a cartel club after a stellar year. 

 

I think our targeting has changed and we are trying to mix it up with those cartel club, and we simply can't compete with them on the financial package

 

I think a lot of that is a description of the problem, ie not being opportunistic. Eg Trafford last season, this season Thiaw was available for £20m, now Milan apparently want to play him and now we're in for him, we didn't move for anyone this January, didn't move in a way that caught anyone off guard or was reported last minute. Everything's been telegraphed and head-to-head with big clubs, like you say.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Famous Nick]

proper DoF work is whats missing. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I think a lot of that is a description of the problem, ie not being opportunistic. Eg Trafford last season, this season Thiaw was available for £20m, now Milan apparently want to play him, we didn't move for anyone this January, didn't move in a way that caught anyone off guard or was reported last minute. 

Id say it's a combination of judgement calls which some may or may not agree with. Ie buying Trafford last summer made no sense imo. Especially given he had a terrible season at Burnley in the PL and we just did our PSR swindle. 40m on keepers with nothing spent on other areas would have been rancid optics. 

 

As for Thiaw this is clearly a secondary target who is being pivoted to, either that or as mental as it is it's not a position we are prioritising. 

 

I think we just lack a long term cohesive plan and it's an issue which rules throughout the entire club. We have this goal to be number (which I'm becoming more and more skeptical of I initially said I'd wait for the stadium plans before making my judgement on if I'm being bullshited but that keeps getting referred). 

 

I know people will see this as pessimistic, it isn't the intention I'm just using the data I have and making assessment based on them. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Id say it's a combination of judgement calls which some may or may not agree with. Ie buying Trafford last summer made no sense imo. Especially given he had a terrible season at Burnley in the PL and we just did our PSR swindle. 40m on keepers with nothing spent on other areas would have been rancid optics. 

 

As for Thiaw this is clearly a secondary target who is being pivoted to, either that or as mental as it is it's not a position we are prioritising. 

 

I think we just lack a long term cohesive plan and it's an issue which rules throughout the entire club. We have this goal to be number (which I'm becoming more and more skeptical of I initially said I'd wait for the stadium plans before making my judgement on if I'm being bullshited but that keeps getting referred). 

 

I know people will see this as pessimistic, it isn't the intention I'm just using the data I have and making assessment based on them. 

Honestly I don't think we'd have cared about the optics of Trafford without Mitchell intervening. Would have been another criticised decision that came good like Wood, Gordon, Hall. Otherwise agree though.

[Zero]

DOF is responsible for the long term cohesive plan, while both of them were having difficulties working with Howe.

 

Not saying that those two were good hiring but imo Howe also needs to adjust himself re collaborating with a DOF.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Honestly I don't think we'd have cared about the optics of Trafford without Mitchell intervening. Would have been another criticised decision that came good like Wood, Gordon, Hall. Otherwise agree though.

We didn't need another goal keeper last summer, its not just about optics it's also resource allocation. 

 

I actually don't think it makes sense to develop goalkeepers and most elite clubs seem to take the same approach. You just buy the best you can. 

 

Anyways this detail distracts from the main points which is we have systematic issues at all levels which will need to be sorted if we are to be number 1 (not my words). 

[Paully]

🚨 Newcastle have earmarked Chelsea striker Nicolas Jackson as a contingency plan if they miss out on Benjamin Šeško. 

(Source: @TheAthleticFC)

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Paully said:

🚨 Newcastle have earmarked Chelsea striker Nicolas Jackson as a contingency plan if they miss out on Benjamin Šeško. 

(Source: @TheAthleticFC)

Welcome to Tottenham Nicolas.

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Paully said:

🚨 Newcastle have earmarked Chelsea striker Nicolas Jackson as a contingency plan if they miss out on Benjamin Šeško. 

(Source: @TheAthleticFC)

 

Arrhhhh, there's the bottom of the barrel 

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Paully said:

🚨 Newcastle have earmarked Chelsea striker Nicolas Jackson as a contingency plan if they miss out on Benjamin Šeško. 

(Source: @TheAthleticFC)

Kill uz. 

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

 

Arrhhhh, there's the bottom of the barrel 

It isn’t 

[Ben]

2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

It isn’t 

 

 oh fuck

[Geordie Ahmed]

I think Jackson is a decent player, bit of a knacker but he's not as bad as people make out

 

I wouldn't want to pay anything more than £50m for him but anything around that price or less I'd take him

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

I think Jackson is a decent player, bit of a knacker but he's not as bad as people make out

 

I wouldn't want to pay anything more than £50m for him but anything around that price or less I'd take him

 

Chelsea might only accept a loan deal apparently 

[r0cafella]

i don't understand what we are looking for tbh. The profile of Sesko Ekitike and Jackson are all different. We are definitely doing transfers based on gut feeling

[Geordie Ahmed]

Just now, Ben said:

 

Chelsea might only accept a loan deal apparently 

I'd be even more keen, ideally with an option to buy but if not even a simple loan would do, we are fast entering into the beggars can't be choosers territory 

[Zero]

5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

i don't understand what we are looking for tbh. The profile of Sesko Ekitike and Jackson are all different. We are definitely doing transfers based on gut feeling

we are in panic mode, obviously 

[wyn davies]

9 hours ago, Rich said:

Please, tell me more.

Can't rem

 

9 hours ago, black_n_white said:

You can’t just pluck names out of a hat, the club has to do the due diligence, scouting etc. this is how signings can go terribly wrong. If we don’t get Sesko we have to convince Isak to stay somehow.

 

 

 

Can't remember where I heard or read it, but apparently PSG are willing to move him on and he wants out due to lack of game time, as I say only a rumour, wish I could remember the link.

[Moose]

33 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

i don't understand what we are looking for tbh. The profile of Sesko Ekitike and Jackson are all different. We are definitely doing transfers based on gut feeling

 

Yep, I got the feeling that with every player we signed, we have meticulously scouted them to within an inch of their lives, including but not limited to character references to see if they'd fit the teams culture.

 

Now it seems like we've gone for the scattergun approach and are just lurching from target to target willy nilly.

 

I don't belive for one second that we've put in anywhere near as much time in scouting Jackson as we did for anyone bought before 2024. It seems more a case of 'ah yeah, he's got something we can work with, take!'.

 

It would be utterly depressing to get Jackson, Chelsea would basically be scraping their left overs into our doggy bowl after they cockblocked us for Delap and Pedro

 

[Whitley mag]

Jackson can’t hit a barn door, if we just want someone to press great, but he’s got zero composure and would be a massive downgrade.

[SUPERTOON]

Not sure where we go from here, it’s increasingly likely we start the season with Gordon or Osula up front. That in itself is a failure. Mental we are in this position given what we achieved last season.