Menace Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think Evan Ferguson is the Michu of this generation - we're borderline responsible for his hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Michu was brilliant. What happened there? Injury or lost his hunger? £ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Michu was brilliant. What happened there? Injury or lost his hunger? £ Injuries, ankle specifically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 16 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Elliot Anderson being worth £100m is one of the most ridiculous takes that has ever been posted on the internet in its entire existence. Yeah he’s good but he’s not that good ffs. It’s the English market thing. It’s a shame we won’t get to see prime Miley and Anderson play together but the Anderson ship has sailed sadly. What’s his true value, 60m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gola Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 41 minutes ago, MagSA said: Cheeky punt on Evan Ferguson. seems to have found an uptick in form and not many players score 3 goals without playing Surprised more hasn't been made of that. His goals per game ratio is insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 9 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: Arsenal linked with Livramento but not until the summer. Isn’t a centre back that can play full back or get converted to being one. No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Feels like we might do something late on in the window depending on the injury situation but I’m not convinced we do anything significant. Summer will be significant I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 18 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah he’s good but he’s not that good ffs. It’s the English market thing. It’s a shame we won’t get to see prime Miley and Anderson play together but the Anderson ship has sailed sadly. What’s his true value, 60m? I feel like after a semi decent season every one who's from the UK is always touted as being worth 60-80M Mainoo/Evan Ferguson spring to mind I couldn't tell you what Anderson is truly worth but I wouldn't be happy if we did pay £60-80M for him On the other side of the argument there's been plenty of midfielders who have came here and completely flopped who cost a lot of money. N'Dombele, Ugarte etc so I understand both sides of the coin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 24 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah he’s good but he’s not that good ffs. It’s the English market thing. It’s a shame we won’t get to see prime Miley and Anderson play together but the Anderson ship has sailed sadly. What’s his true value, 60m? His actual worth and value in today's dumb market are two different things. Realistically, £40m+addons. Daft market value, £55+addons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: For Tino? Yes anything less than that and we've done poorly. Gvardiol is a great benchmark and didn't come with any of the premiums Tino has (Pl experience, English Tax, Etc). The only thing that could face is the player agitating for the move. Deffo affected the Isak price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: The only thing that could face is the player agitating for the move. Deffo affected the Isak price. Because we allowed it to. We folded in the worst possible way. Thankfully he's been terrible which has smothed the crack's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 hours ago, gazza ladra said: They want Livramento to play left back apparently. What happened to Lewis-Skelly? Wasn't he supposed to be the next England left back? Was practically lock on to start in the WC from what I heard. About a year ago saw some Arsenal youtuber laugh at the suggestion that Hall was a better player. Don’t think Arteta likes MLS. Forced into last season due to injuries, but easy to forget he signed Calafori for LB last season then signed Hincapie this season. And if they’re not keen on making Hincapie permanent, they’ll be wanting someone to play LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Lewis-Skelly is naturally a midfielder isn't he? Arsenal fans love overrating their youths like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Because we allowed it to. We folded in the worst possible way. Thankfully he's been terrible which has smothed the crack's. We can say we folded, but imagine we’d turned it down and then he’d produced this form (or worse cos he was in a massive sulk) here. We’d have been absolutely goosed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Lewis-Skelly is decent but got lucky with Hall’s injury in terms of his England caps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, SteV said: We can say we folded, but imagine we’d turned it down and then he’d produced this form (or worse cos he was in a massive sulk) here. We’d have been absolutely goosed. Maybe, maybe not it's impossible to know how it would have played out. That being said as I've often repeated once he did his act I had zero interest in seeing him play again for us. I just wouldn't have sold to those engineered the situation as a point of principle that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 It’s going to be extremely hard to replace Livramento mind. The best outcome is he signs a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think he's probably just behind Bruno as one of the most influential players in our squad. Our whole playing system is very dependent on him - I wouldn't sell him even for £100M but I guess nothing can be done if he gets his head turned or fancies a bigger club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Menace said: I think he's probably just behind Bruno as one of the most influential players in our squad. Our whole playing system is very dependent on him - I wouldn't sell him even for £100M but I guess nothing can be done if he gets his head turned or fancies a bigger club He’s exceptional but I think we lose more when Hall is out as he’s a better footballer and better going forward. Tino has undoubted class though particularly as he can cover both positions. If we get CL and make some serious signings he might stay but I’m not confident and I think he’ll be away in the summer with Tonali. Edited January 10 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: For Tino? Yes anything less than that and we've done poorly. Gvardiol is a great benchmark and didn't come with any of the premiums Tino has (Pl experience, English Tax, Etc). Anything less than a world record fee for a fullback we’ve done poorly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 28 minutes ago, Menace said: Lewis-Skelly is naturally a midfielder isn't he? Arsenal fans love overrating their youths like So is Hall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 That's what puts him just above Hall for me personally - the fact that he can play both positions and at a very high level. He's an incredible footballer. Just turned 23 too, easily has another 10-12 years in the tank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Very few youngsters are ‘natural fullbacks’. It’s still a position of players who were wingers, CMs or CBs in yesteryear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Hall has a higher ceiling and is already the better player imo. I hope both stay with us for the next decade, but if we have to let one go I'd rather it be Tino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: He’s exceptional but I think we lose more when Hall is out as he’s a better footballer and better going forward. Tino has undoubted class though particularly as he can cover both positions. If we get CL and make some serious signings he might stay but I’m not confident and I think he’ll be away in the summer with Tonali. Think Tino x Barnes is our best left hand partnership. See League Cup winner of nice play between them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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