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I'd love someone like Gordon to have a word with him and tell him not to have the summer off... or at least look at the summer as an extended training camp. Have a couple of weeks away, sure but come back with the intention of being fitter and stronger than ever before. 

 

Pleased for him with the player of the month award. Funny enough, confidence, on the pitch at least, doesn't seem to be an issue. He always wants the ball under pressure, it's one of his biggest strengths.

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25 minutes ago, Cf said:

Can they not find a better place to take the photo? The training centre looks so shit [emoji38]

 

:lol: Love how they at least put enough effort in to tell him to throw a home shirt on but can't find a nice little backdrop. 

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49 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Was probably 4 weeks away from deserving a call-up

Wonder if one of the reasons he wasn't even closer is it's thought he needs to prove his "new and improved" attitude first. Could imagine Eddie not pushing for his inclusion in the way he would with a Gordon just yet.

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Why would Eddie do that?

*Not do that. I'm not saying he'd put the mouth on him. But I think he would actively lobby for someone like Gordon to get in this summer 'should Southgate approach him for his opinion'. While being more circumspect about Hall seeing as he's only just begun to start for us after a difficult adjustment period.

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3 hours ago, joeyt said:

At what point of the season did we confirm he was permanently joining us because we couldn't finish below 14th?

 

Feel he's been great since then

 

Weirdly, it was around the same time. 

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Ended the season posting some pretty good data. This vs other PL full backs this season:

 

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Progressive with his passing and very proactive with his defending (which is probably also why he's making a relatively high amount of errors).

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14 minutes ago, Smal said:

Ended the season posting some pretty good data. This vs other PL full backs this season:

 

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Progressive with his passing and very proactive with his defending (which is probably also why he's making a relatively high amount of errors).

These are, by almost any understanding, fantastic numbers

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I know it was a low key friendly today, but had another good game.  Having a proper pre-season with Howe will hopefully work wonders for him - Looking forward to see how this lad progresses next season. 

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2 minutes ago, Mag3.14 said:

I know it was a low key friendly today, but had another good game.  Having a proper pre-season with Howe will hopefully work wonders for him - Looking forward to see how this lad progresses next season. 

 

It doesn't help that fanny's like me were questioning "why pay £30 million for a player that doesn't play ?"

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In his game against us for Chelsea last year there was one moment where he plays a 40 yard cross field ball over Dan Burn with his weaker foot. 1:30 here:

 

 

Kid's got wonderful technique and looks physically solid. Think he could become really good with some more match experience. Needs to be playing going forward.

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16 hours ago, Willow said:

Absolute quality

 

 

what's with all the defending clips?

 

Get that ball playing front and centre.

 

What I like most about him is how good he is with the penetration of his passes and the weight - it's really good. He's also got quick feet and can drop a shoulder. IMO that's why I think he can play in midfield. IMO that's the difference between a Kroos and a TAA. At FB or coming from deep, TAA has all the time in the world to pick a pass. But he struggles when receiving the ball with his back to goal or just generally when under pressure. Some of it is movement but Trent doesn't have the touch, composure and ball control to operate in tight spaces that Kroos does. Hall seems to be better in those tight spaces. A proper footballer man. A baller.

 

So yes.. Lewis Hall is a Toni Kroos regen.

 

I also just want to see it just once. Maybe I'm over-rating him. I just want to see him next to Bruno.

 

But yeh my point is, Hall is not just a passer. Jonjo Shelvey could pick a pass - any pass at that. But Hall can really ball.

 

Edit: That's also the major difference between Cabaye and Bruno. The opposition could press Cabaye out of the game largely and overwhelm him physically. Where Bruno is skipping past players if they get too tight and he's better able to cope physically (he also usually has more help than Cabaye did). The opposition could press Cabaye into a sideways pass or a poor pass. Get on top of him. You can't do that to Bruno, he's dropping the shoulder on you then buying a foul.

 

 

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I just don’t know enough to assess if Hall would be a successful midfielder. As you’ve alluded to, it’s a lot more than being able to pass or tackle. It’s the awareness and speed of thought under pressure.

If he stays at FB he will obvs be a playmaking FB and, I think takeover from Trippier in that role. 
Tino’s strength to me (offensively) seems to be more about running with the ball. His passing is good but not exceptional.

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