Abacus Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 It's hard to draw anything from this, other than the positive of getting competitive minutes into his legs. With a whole makeshift back line, and in a kind of midfield role instead of LB, in a first half where there was no composure from most players, I'm not sure anyone shone. (Saying that, both Dummett and Lascelles put in a shift and Target was OK.) My point being that it's easy to think the players who were subbed were the reason the team weren't performing, but hopefully nobody thinks that, given that in that half almost nobody could keep the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 To me, it seems he has very good technique & athleticism even just from last night. A lovely turn before being fouled, some nice little dribbles in space, the excellent ball for Isak. Probably going to be a quiet first half of the season for him but expect he'll start to really push after New Year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 It seems to take players about half a season to fit into Eddie's system anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: To me, it seems he has very good technique & athleticism even just from last night. A lovely turn before being fouled, some nice little dribbles in space, the excellent ball for Isak. Probably going to be a quiet first half of the season for him but expect he'll start to really push after New Year. Thought the same, he looked to have all the tools, just a little nervous in a pressure start in midfield. And we didn't really have the ball. Have no doubt he's a class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Thought the same, he looked to have all the tools, just a little nervous in a pressure start in midfield. And we didn't really have the ball. Have no doubt he's a class player. This! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Skeletor said: It seems to take players about half a season to fit into Eddie's system anyway. The good drugs don't take effect straight away. He's 18, didn't have a pre-season and tactically looked a bit lost but technically looked reasonably sharp. Overall promising but eclipsed somewhat by Tino being electric. I'm sure Eddie would've had a word with him and Miley after hooking them to allay any doubts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: The good drugs don't take effect straight away. He's 18, didn't have a pre-season and tactically looked a bit lost but technically looked reasonably sharp. Overall promising but eclipsed somewhat by Tino being electric. I'm sure Eddie would've had a word with him and Miley after hooking them to allay any doubts. Hasn't busted out the in-game stats editor for Hall yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Gallowgate Toon said: To me, it seems he has very good technique & athleticism even just from last night. A lovely turn before being fouled, some nice little dribbles in space, the excellent ball for Isak. Probably going to be a quiet first half of the season for him but expect he'll start to really push after New Year. He passed the TCD baller test and that's the most important thing. The mentality test is pending but the rest of it is getting minutes and finding a role for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: He passed the TCD baller test and that's the most important thing. The mentality test is pending but the rest of it is getting minutes and finding a role for him. 😋👍🏽 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) He wanted the ball. Alot can be said for that. He was raw as fuck and I'm not sure on how we employed him positionally. I'd like to see him brought on in a game when we are winning comfortably, when there is plenty of space on the pitch. You rarely see the best of players when you are backs against the wall, well unless you are a centre half etc. It's hardly the best situation to showcase yourself. Edited September 28, 2023 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 He was being coached by Frank fucking Lampard for a fair while. Like Gordon I can imagine that'll take a good few months to weed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 10:32, Skeletor said: If Barnes and Big Joe are out long term then I could see Hall getting minutes in the wide forward positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Plus Joelinton looked fine on Wednesday, hardly rushing him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 A little disappointed Howe didn't see fit to make Hall one of today's 5 substitutions while 4-0 up today. You'd have hoped the risk-reward ratio would favour giving Burn a 20 minute break. I'm sure he's right, but I'd like to know why he's right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, 80 said: A little disappointed Howe didn't see fit to make Hall one of today's 5 substitutions while 4-0 up today. You'd have hoped the risk-reward ratio would favour giving Burn a 20 minute break. I'm sure he's right, but I'd like to know why he's right. I'd have liked to see Hall too, but I guess the question is which sub don't we do instead? Hall on for AG instead of Miggy maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I'm sure it's justified. Clearly has more trust in Livra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, 80 said: A little disappointed Howe didn't see fit to make Hall one of today's 5 substitutions while 4-0 up today. You'd have hoped the risk-reward ratio would favour giving Burn a 20 minute break. I'm sure he's right, but I'd like to know why he's right. Perhaps it's less to do with the players coming off and more to do with the players coming on. Targett wouldve come on to replace Burn if that was needed. All the players who came on are ones who will almost certainly be getting minutes in the next 2 weeks, Hall probably won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mazzy said: Perhaps it's less to do with the players coming off and more to do with the players coming on. Targett wouldve come on to replace Burn if that was needed. All the players who came on are ones who will almost certainly be getting minutes in the next 2 weeks, Hall probably won't be. Right. But it seems a pity that Hall doesn't seem to have forced his way into more serious contention yet. All the usual "he's still young" caveats apply, but I'd have thought 20 minutes in a zero risk scenario like this would be ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Lad’s been at the club 8 weeks. Give it time. Everyone knows he’s an exceptional talent and Eddie will know what he’s doing. Pretty sure he’ll be in for the Man United game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Fairly sure he’ll get some decent minutes from January, with the FA cup ties coming round and players flagging as the season goes on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: Fairly sure he’ll get some decent minutes from January, with the FA cup ties coming round and players flagging as the season goes on Probably start against Man Utd in the league cup as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Still think he needs minutes in his legs, should be using him really in the last ten of matches For match fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’m presuming an obligation to buy includes the player wanting to stay, which he might not if he isn’t getting any sort of game time even when we are winning 4-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 If Isak struggled with being "Eddie fit", then I think it's fair to assume a young lad who had no pre season will have even more work to do. Every day on the training ground he's becoming a better player, of that you can be assured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: I’m presuming an obligation to buy includes the player wanting to stay, which he might not if he isn’t getting any sort of game time even when we are winning 4-0. I believe obligation to buy will mean that contracts have already be signed. Otherwise it's not an obligation to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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