Dr Jinx Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Man for man I think we can compete. Tactically they were one step ahead of us and they have the ability to unleash players like Foden in areas of the pitch that will hurt us time and again. We're not quite there yet. We gave them almost too much respect. Seemed to snatch at any half chance we got instead of playing how we usually can. Mentally the players need to step up and not be intimidated by games like this and the manager also needs to come with a better game plan. In hindsight I would have started with some of the players who came on late and unleashed “first teamers” when the game opened up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shak said: Just a dull game, that Anyway, think we've nowt to be concerned about after that. Think we can match City on terms of how we set up and our energy. Difference is that they just have better players and when they're on we just can't compete with them. They were missing some important players and even then I don't think a single player from our team gets in their starting lineup tonight? Maybe someone ahead of Alvarez? And he of course scored a brilliant goal that decided the game. I could say it'll take us a few years to get to where they are now but in reality we probably never will, and likely won't have to to win trophies. They're frighteningly good and them regressing seems more likely than any team in England getting to their level. I don't rate Kovacic, put Tonali or an in form Bruno in his position in that team and they'd probably have a better game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, gbandit said: Think that’s the most frustrated Eddie’s looked in a post-match interview. He barely gave anything away but clearly our ball retention would have been extremely disappointing for him Hopefully it riles us up for the Liverpool game. I'd happily take tonight's frustration if it means we turn up against them next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Not for me Clive. The chances they had weren’t easy. Even the goal was a phenomenal strike. I’m happy that tonight represents massive progress but probably 3 players short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, mikejaxer said: I couldn't agree more It was so dull One of the dullest games I've watched in ages. Like a Spain group stage world cup match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I know they just win all the bloody time, but I find them lot so fucking boring to watch personally. Yes it was only 1 - 0 but it barely felt competitive, just like most of their games. I like the other team to have a go back, but City just take that element out of a game. Fair play. Our lot will have some frustration to let out on Liverpool after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Displayname said: Might it be time to let Longstaff go to someone who can utilize his workrate more? He for sure isnt a supersub. Easily the first to let go if we could find ourselves a good young creative midfielder, probably not this summer or in January though. Edited August 19, 2023 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Displayname said: Might it be time to let Longstaff go to someone who can utilize his workrate more? He for sure isnt a supersub. Aye, let’s get rid of one of our very few homegrown players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Basically, if this seasons is a 94/95 rerun, that was the Man United 2-0 loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 There's more than one way to skin a cat. Going cut and thrust against these there is the quickest way to guarantee a loss. Its not what Palace do whenever they get something there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Rich said: I generally don’t think Burn is up to much at LB in possession, but he was quality tonight I thought. Better defensively than offensively, obviously, but didn’t find myself griping at him much. Certainly not when compared to a few others! Defensively great in that second half. Do worry when he gets too high up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Man for man I think we can compete. Tactically they were one step ahead of us and they have the ability to unleash players like Foden in areas of the pitch that will hurt us time and again. We're not quite there yet. We gave them almost too much respect. Seemed to snatch at any half chance we got instead of playing how we usually can. Mentally the players need to step up and not be intimidated by games like this and the manager also needs to come with a better game plan. In hindsight I would have started with some of the players who came on late and unleashed “first teamers” when the game opened up a bit. I can't blame the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Basically, if this seasons is a 94/95 rerun, that was the Man United 2-0 loss Played Manchester City five times that season. Please no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Displayname said: Might it be time to let Longstaff go to someone who can utilize his workrate more? He for sure isnt a supersub. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Man for man I think we can compete. Tactically they were one step ahead of us and they have the ability to unleash players like Foden in areas of the pitch that will hurt us time and again. We're not quite there yet. We gave them almost too much respect. Seemed to snatch at any half chance we got instead of playing how we usually can. Mentally the players need to step up and not be intimidated by games like this and the manager also needs to come with a better game plan. In hindsight I would have started with some of the players who came on late and unleashed “first teamers” when the game opened up a bit. We really can't compete man for man yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich said: Aye, let’s get rid of one of our very few homegrown players. One of our players of the season last season but let’s flog him because he had a stinker for half an hour away to the best team on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Rich said: Aye, let’s get rid of one of our very few homegrown players. I can accept 2 goals to put us through to the league Cup final, but I draw the line at an underpar sub performance against the best team in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas said: There's more than one way to skin a cat. Going cut and thrust against these there is the quickest way to guarantee a loss. Its not what Palace do whenever they get something there. It sounded like Howe wanted us to press but we just didn’t know execute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich said: I generally don’t think Burn is up to much at LB in possession, but he was quality tonight I thought. Better defensively than offensively, obviously, but didn’t find myself griping at him much. Certainly not when compared to a few others! He did ok today. But our threat down the left becomes so limited against organized defenses with him on LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Heart sank when Schar went down, but just a dull flat game tbh. Reaction for Liverpool hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mountain said: I don't rate Kovacic, put Tonali or an in form Bruno in his position in that team and they'd probably have a better game. Kovacic is quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I see burn as a player you hoy on when trying to protect a lead not a starter that can't do the job offensively for your team to get gordon up against there aging walker. He had an easy afternoon which I thought would of been our plan to go at him both halves with flash and barnesy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 One of my favourite games last season was when Brentford ran them ragged. I was hoping we'd emulate that somewhat and try to be more direct with the ball down the channels against them. We tried to play a possession style today which we've improved a lot at, but Man City specialized in defending that style. Think we'll eventually figure out the right strategy. Don't think these lot are unbeatable at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) I dont think it was too bad. We just came against a side who were better tactically and blocked all our normal avenues of play which really restricted us. It was just one of those games where when plan A doesn't work you really need your attacking players to really step up and none of them did - Almiron in particular was making poor decision all night. Won't include Isak in that as he was left woefully isolated but I guess that was the plan. Personally, I'd have pulled him to the left and given Walker something different to think about, but overall not particularly surprised nor disappointed by that result. Hall will be a massive player in games like this. Edited August 19, 2023 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: I can accept 2 goals to put us through to the league Cup final, but I draw the line at an underpar sub performance against the best team in the world TBF I don’t think we would have brought Longstaff on except for the amount of yellow cards flying about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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