80 Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 30 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Don't think anyone is backing him. Just don't buy the official line why he was peddled There's a guy about 5 posts above you running cover for him, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 13 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Cordero, Vakhtang and Soo these are his legacy and we will see if he was all he was made out to be Show me the interview with these kids explaining they were persuaded to join by the overtures of Paul Mitchell, and I'll take this seriously. We were already well underway signing kids, both domestic and foreign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 80 said: Show me the interview with these kids explaining they were persuaded to join by the overtures of Paul Mitchell, and I'll take this seriously. We were already well underway signing kids, both domestic and foreign. Exactly. I'm sure I remember reading that at least two of these kids (Cordero and Salia) were Nickson's work. Edited August 6, 2025 by Bunk Moreland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 80 said: There's a guy about 5 posts above you running cover for him, to be fair. Maybe I'm that guy. I'm not backing him, but trying to understand the timing of the departure. He came in last summer. Had the tail end of a transfer window that was a failure. He took some of the responsibility. He appeared to lose the power battle with Howe. The summer targets do not feel like Mitchell targets to me. If I was him after last summer and saw the plan for this summer and it was not my plan, I had been overruled as to whatever plan mine was, I would leave before it took place and was associated with it. I am not saying he's not a chancer. He came across like a knob since he got here. He caused issues with his interviews. He apparently benched the Isak talks. But I think it's a possibility he left for the above reason. And if so we will never know what his summer would have looked like if he was given more authority. Edited August 6, 2025 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 6 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: Maybe I'm that guy. I'm not backing him, but trying to understand the timing of the departure. He came in last summer. Had the tail end of a transfer window that was a failure. He took some of the responsibility. He appeared to lose the power battle with Howe. The summer targets do not feel like Mitchell targets to me. If I was him after last summer and saw the plan for this summer and it was not my plan, I had been overruled as to whatever plan mine was, I would leave before it took place and was associated with it. I am not saying he's not a chancer. He came across like a knob since he got here. He caused issues with his interviews. He apparently benched the Isak talks. But I think it's a possibility he left for the above reason. And if so we will never know what his summer would have looked like if he was given more authority. I agree with this mostly. Mitchell did turn out to be a prick, and it's likely he upset a few people at the club including the playing squad if you believe what you read. But we did need an alternative strategy to the small group of select players which Howe prefers. In that his approach was needed, although maybe he took it to the extreme. Howe still has the best part of 4 weeks to get some players through the door so hopefully we'll turn this around, but we've wasted a load of time chasing pipe dreams this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 13 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: Maybe I'm that guy. I'm not backing him, but trying to understand the timing of the departure. He came in last summer. Had the tail end of a transfer window that was a failure. He took some of the responsibility. He appeared to lose the power battle with Howe. The summer targets do not feel like Mitchell targets to me. If I was him after last summer and saw the plan for this summer and it was not my plan, I had been overruled as to whatever plan mine was, I would leave before it took place and was associated with it. I am not saying he's not a chancer. He came across like a knob since he got here. He caused issues with his interviews. He apparently benched the Isak talks. But I think it's a possibility he left for the above reason. And if so we will never know what his summer would have looked like if he was given more authority. Fair enough, but I have heard people romanticising what might have been with Mitchell in completely unwarranted ways. He's not the focus of my ire regarding this summer, that goes higher up, but on the balance of evidence he deserved to have his arse kicked, not greater authority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) We probably won't find out, but the key aspect in this, was, did he actually go himself or was he pushed out after that post Everton game meeting? The fact that two scouts have been given the task of being at the forefront of negations this window is an absolute fuck fest Edited August 6, 2025 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 I think he would've more than likely had a list of promising targets that Eddie disagreed with. After the season howe would've pushed his preference to yasir and the board. It's the only thing that makes sense as to why he left the way he did by been bypassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 If a DOF leaves so early it's pretty clear it's because he didn't get on or didn't align with the manager, and more often than not it's down to transfers. 100% what's happened at Newcastle. He's not without fault but this blaming him for everything going on needs to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: If a DOF leaves so early it's pretty clear it's because he didn't get on or didn't align with the manager, and more often than not it's down to transfers. 100% what's happened at Newcastle. He's not without fault but this blaming him for everything going on needs to stop. That seems a fair conclusion, just people take it too far and assume it’s Howe ‘demanding control’. We don’t know anything like the level of detail to know exactly what went wrong. Also large amount of fault to the people above them both, which of course is hard to apportion given the situation with Eales. Edited August 6, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, andycap said: I think he would've more than likely had a list of promising targets that Eddie disagreed with. After the season howe would've pushed his preference to yasir and the board. It's the only thing that makes sense as to why he left the way he did by been bypassed. I've got no doubt he was pushed out. Howe's comments that he only found out when he was on holiday just don't add up either, seeing that it was announced within 48 hours of that Everton game Edited August 6, 2025 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 Mitchell's saga with the club is so on brand for us. We're only allowed to have nice things up to a point. I had high hopes for this guy, was willing to give him the benefit of time, but what's come out in the press is obviously shocking and fucked us over in terms of improvement. He was right that our transfer process is not fit for purpose, so I'm sure the smug cunt feels some sort of vindication seeing this shit window play out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 There was definetly a rabbit off somewhere with how quick Mitchell left (and he might have and probably most likely did work more than a months notice but we will never know) and i think the Howes has quite a bit to do with it, along with the annoucement of Eales health issues as he was appointed by Eales and knows him well etc. Mitchell was appointed to be recruitment focused to overhaul our scouting rather than Ashworth being the middle of the wheel, being more of a manager / administrator / coordinator of departments. I think Mitchells demise probably started last summer when Mitchell said our recrtuitment wasnt fit for purpose and Howe came out and took offence and thats when the power play from Eddie happened in Germany My uneducated guess is that the summer transfer window meeting took place sometime in April or May and Howe didn't like the list Mitchell brought to him, Eddie wanted x,y & z. Mitchell said this wont work if my suggestions are getting knocked back and as both Eddie and Mitchell are stubborn as mules, Mitchell handed in his notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted August 6, 2025 Share Posted August 6, 2025 We’ve spent the whole summer targeting players we were after before Mitchell got here so it’s only fair to assume he either did nowt in terms of scouting etc or Howe has rejected every single target he found, either because they aren’t the “right” player or through pure stubbornness. The first option seems very unlikely since 90% of his job was recruitment and the second option is extremely worrying as it’s a huge part of why this summer has been such a fucking mess. If we’re going into every transfer window trying to sign perfect players we’ll be in massive trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 Interesting snippet from Isaac Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 List as long as his arm of things to fix of which he fixed none and left us worse off the bald cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: List as long as his arm of things to fix of which he fixed none and left us worse off the bald cunt. He did something's but obviously won't be acknowledged, got rid Miggy and Kelly Brought in Bunce who's been a revelation and got suds. Important to remember that his job was basically transfers and obviously his authority was quickly removed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Nick Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 I am ok for Howe to win a bit of power over transfers and get this useless DoF out but then the way how summer unfolded so far sadly leads back to the interim transfer committee. High level decision needed from PIF how this DoF/manager relation should work in the future, problem is I can see Howe doesnt want someone to set a direction and have its own transfer ideas where Howe can chime in between vrious targets offered up and he wants the choose the targets himself but then that may not fit with DoFs overall ideas creating tension. can see this problem to arise when new CEO and DoF in place and a new CEO will want to give power to his own new hire of DoF. delicate situation that DoF doesnt want to be undermined by Howe and neither the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: He did something's but obviously won't be acknowledged, got rid Miggy and Kelly Brought in Bunce who's been a revelation and got suds. Important to remember that his job was basically transfers and obviously his authority was quickly removed We'll never really know if he was any good at his job or not since his ethos was diametrically opposed to Howe's. They were working from two different parameters from what it looks like, that was never going to work. Bald cunt or not, can you imagine the stick he'd have got if he was in charge of the shitshow this transfer window has been so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 8, 2025 Share Posted August 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, TRon said: We'll never really know if he was any good at his job or not since his ethos was diametrically opposed to Howe's. They were working from two different parameters from what it looks like, that was never going to work. Bald cunt or not, can you imagine the stick he'd have got if he was in charge of the shitshow this transfer window has been so far? I think that's the fundamental problem right. Howe seems razor clear in his view that there are a very small number of players who will improve the team, and has strong views on who these people are. Which leaves a Sporting Director's job limited to negotiating deals Howe wants and then looking at academy/long-term recruitment. Hopefully that's what we'll be aiming in our next hire - but it very clearly is not the role that Paul Mitchell was brought here to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Neil Banerjee Aug 11, 2025 15:28+01:00 0 Al-Hilal in talks with ex-Newcastle director Paul Mitchell and eye Italy chief as Saudi giants look to build new era under Simone Inzaghi S. Inzaghi Al Hilal Saudi Pro League Following the appointment of Simone Inzaghi, Al-Hilal are targeting a new sporting director, with Paul Mitchell and Piero Ausilio the top candidates. Al-Hilal are searching for a top sporting director Former Newcastle director Paul Mitchell and Inter's Piero Ausilio have been targeted Move part of club’s wider ambition to cement its status Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gallowgate Toon Posted August 19, 2025 Share Posted August 19, 2025 Did he know this was coming and decide to bounce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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