AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Last summer came too early for Mitchell to do anything, this year would’ve been the one. Guess we’ll never know why he left or was booted, either a change in strategy or he just wasn’t as good as they expected. Dunno. I don’t believe Howe would’ve demanded or forced him out. Expect we need someone in his role though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Last summer came too early for Mitchell to do anything, this year would’ve been the one. Guess we’ll never know why he left or was booted, either a change in strategy or he just wasn’t as good as they expected. Dunno. I don’t believe Howe would’ve demanded or forced him out. Expect we need someone in his role though. It would be nice to know what the role was. At least Ashworth gave a nice description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, madras said: It would be nice to know what the role was. At least Ashworth gave a nice description. Do you like wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Do you like wheels? Round like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel, Never ending nor beginning on an ever spinning reel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 33 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Last summer came too early for Mitchell to do anything, this year would’ve been the one. Guess we’ll never know why he left or was booted, either a change in strategy or he just wasn’t as good as they expected. Dunno. I don’t believe Howe would’ve demanded or forced him out. Expect we need someone in his role though. But you can see the players he was trying to get in January - Khusanov and Juma Bah, both young CB's was the kind of players he would have gotten in. Man City beat us then, too. We are slow pokes in the market - we need a killer instinct, fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) It all harks back to that interview he did for me, came in like an absolute mad cunt insinuating the plan was for Howe (a brilliant DoF in his own right) to stick to coaching, then using management speak at any opportunity, and criticising a transfer policy that had contributed to us staying up, getting into the CL, and since then win a cup and qualify again. Even after that I was willing to give him a chance and let the relationships build, but everything I've heard about him since then has backed up the conclusion that he's a talk-a-good-game, arrogant management speak tosspot and that aside from selling Lloyd Kelly to Juve he's done nothing of note in his actual role. Our posts about him on here are identical to the ones I read about him on the Monaco forum while he was there and raised a few red flags about him. It's a shame because when it was announced I was really excited about him based on his incomings at Spurs. Edited July 23, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 hours ago, Zero said: Questions should be asked why hire him, why he wasn’t probably replaced and why his work leftover was not probably handled to other management / staff. And yes all pointing towards Eales, and, ultimately, the real person-in-charge from PIF. Eales clearly was following a different remit to Howe. He was trying to fit the PL's PSR handcuffs and Howe wasn't ready to fall in line. Just different perspectives and given Howe's success there was only going to be one winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Mitchell flogged miggy and Kelly which I don't think would've happened had howe had his way. That'll probably something to do with the fall out between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshToon Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Still time left of course but I'd actually say this window so far only justifies Mitchell's opinion that the transfer policy wasn't fit for purpose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I don't think Mitchell qualified his statement and phrased it really poorly (not fit for purpose). When PIF took over, we had a practically completely clean slate to go out and splurge £150m + because we never spent much in the preceding rolling period. The strategy to go out and splurge (rightly) to clear the relegation zone, catch up, and get into Europe was not sustainable, rather than 'not fit for purpose'. We needed a new strategy that played smart with PSR, more wheeling and dealing, buy low and sell high to keep generating that additional headroom to allow us to continue to buy the important first team players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Remember when Mitchell confidently promised the club he’d get Guehi done and got absolutey mugged by Parrish? Conveniently left that out. He did fuck all. His job was to change how we recruit and for all reasons not repeating he stuck around until the summer and left. He could have left ages prior. He left us in the lurch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Looking forward to seeing his playbook of gems he had hidden from the world unleashed on some other club. Absolute myth his best days recruiting were at a time when other clubs across Europe hadn’t got up to speed. It was just like us with Carr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: It all harks back to that interview he did for me, came in like an absolute mad cunt insinuating the plan was for Howe (a brilliant DoF in his own right) to stick to coaching, then using management speak at any opportunity, and criticising a transfer policy that had contributed to us staying up, getting into the CL, and since then win a cup and qualify again. Even after that I was willing to give him a chance and let the relationships build, but everything I've heard about him since then has backed up the conclusion that he's a talk-a-good-game, arrogant management speak tosspot and that aside from selling Lloyd Kelly to Juve he's done nothing of note in his actual role. Our posts about him on here are identical to the ones I read about him on the Monaco forum while he was there and raised a few red flags about him. It's a shame because when it was announced I was really excited about him based on his incomings at Spurs. Cordero? If that can be assigned to him. Wasn’t a fan of the hype some of our fans gave Mitchell based on pick and choosing named transfers of his previous clubs, but he was surely brought in to stretch our £150m budget on players that can have significant sell on / improve the floor. If it was coming out that the main transfers would be Trafford, Elanga and Pedro, all he knew would likely cost near £150m, then what is he supposed to then work with? Just a glorified negotiator at that point which he probably doesn’t like, so best moving on. May have been all rosy from Eddies POV as agreement was there in meetings, but if Mitchell was brought in by Earles to do X, and his job actually is going to a lot less X and predominantly Y, you are going to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 8 minutes ago, Kanj said: Looking forward to seeing his playbook of gems he had hidden from the world unleashed on some other club. Absolute myth his best days recruiting were at a time when other clubs across Europe hadn’t got up to speed. It was just like us with Carr. Slagging the lad off when we don't have a scooby doo why he left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 12 minutes ago, Kanj said: Remember when Mitchell confidently promised the club he’d get Guehi done and got absolutey mugged by Parrish? Conveniently left that out. He did fuck all. His job was to change how we recruit and for all reasons not repeating he stuck around until the summer and left. He could have left ages prior. He left us in the lurch. Howe wanted Guehi and Guehi only. Mitchell tried his best to get him which failed i don't understand the hatred for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 It's probably just due to a personal aversion to anything overtly corporate and to the kind of language and mannerisms people who are product of that environment use, but I found our previous two directors of football hard to listen to or feel in any way moved by. I don't know if it's a reflection of the nature of the role and the types of people who end up on that path, or just two misses from us but I'd love the next one to be someone who just speaks in normal language and lets their work be proof of their proficiency, rather than overusing corporate jargon and playing that role which often makes me feel a bit suspicious of someone's authenticity and trustworthiness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I appreciate a lot of these insider pieces are access journalism, but some of the anecdotes attached to Paul Mitchell indicate he was brash. That can potentially work if you're all building something new as it sets the tone, but less so when the group has worked together for a long time before you. To come in and instantly poke holes in things rather than approach it from 'Wow, you've done great, here's how I think I can help' is naive or arrogant depending on how you see it (it may even be both). If Eddie Howe survives this season he will be behind Sir Bobby and Kevin Keegan as longest serving Newcastle managers in modern times. Given the nature of football these days that's particularly impressive. The tenure doesn't only speak to his quality but also his influence on the club. These are firmly his players now, and the fact he has a trophy only enhances his sway. If we're set on appointing a DOF, I think we need someone with an awareness to that situation and how to navigate it diplomatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 25 minutes ago, andycap said: Howe wanted Guehi and Guehi only. Mitchell tried his best to get him which failed i don't understand the hatred for him. Because he was shite. And is bald. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 The kindest summary of Mitchell's tenure you can give, with the info we have now, is he came into a complicated PSR situation with an imbalanced and aging squad and a transfer policy that could have used some rethinking, but he did so with minimal respect for the manager or the tremendous progress that had been made in the preceding 2.5 years. It was a situation that called for skillful relationship building and evolution, but he went for brash, new boss in town reset. And against a lesser manager he may have the full reins of the club right now. Fortunately that's not the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 7 hours ago, JT24 said: He probably means selling Kelly. I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I heard that he is the sperm of the devil himself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, andycap said: Howe wanted Guehi and Guehi only. Mitchell tried his best to get him which failed i don't understand the hatred for him. I don’t believe that’s the case. Khusanov was on our list too, to name one. We just thought we could get Guehi and ended up getting strung along by Palace and failing. A mistake but it doesn’t mean we ‘only wanted’ one target. Think the timing was bad as well, Mitchell didn’t have time to really shape that window. Edited July 23, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t believe that’s the case. Khusanov was on our list too, to name one. We just thought we could get Guehi and ended up getting strung along by Palace and failing. A mistake but it doesn’t mean we ‘only wanted’ one target. Think the timing was bad as well, Mitchell didn’t have time to really shape that window. That was January that though. The khusanov interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 hours ago, andycap said: Slagging the lad off when we don't have a scooby doo why he left. If your boy Mitchell had his way Im sure your avatar wouldn't be our first cup in 70 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Just lock the thread and put him in the bald nonce bin with Baldwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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