Yoane Wissa

[Adam P]

My read of the summer is this, keeping Isak was the strategy all along and we only folded after the bosses went to visit him. After that meeting, the Woltemade and Wissa deals were signed off. 

 

The fact that we were able to move on Woltemade so soon after they resigned themselves / decided to let Isak go, does strongly suggest previous bids for other targets were not what they appeared. I dont think Yasir and Reuben go to his house unless the absolute desire of everyone at the club was for him to stay. The whole summer seems to have finally hinged on that event, which we rightly pused to the very last minute. Primarily as we explored ways to resolve it with him staying and then latterly as it minimises any work Liverpool can do with the player with no pre-season. 

 

Given Woltemade, i am still a bit baffled by the Sesko and Ekitike bids (the two with similar profiles). Why not just go for Woltemade 6 weeks ago and avoid all this? It has to be because the strategy was to keep Isak and therefore logically, the strategy cant have been at that time 'find a replacement'.

 

The alternative is that we knew he was going and it took us until last week to realise that Woltemade might be available (otherwise why not pivot to him when Ekitike fails? Why compete with Liverpool and Man U for their known targets?). Which makes no sense given the chat in Germany and Bayern has been constant all summer. He was available. 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2025 by Adam P

[Pandamninator]

5 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

Mentioned months back that deals tend to get done towards the end of the synthetically set window now rather than in time to start the season but was reassured otherwise so none of this can be happening.

Luckily we also sold into the Market we're buying in, so we rinsed Liverpool for Isak which makes it square.

 

Right?

 

Halp.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2025 by Pandamninator

[Teasy]

2 hours ago, Kimbo said:

Isn’t £75m is more than what Bayern had agreed to pay?

 

Was reported at the time as a 15m Euro loan fee and 80m Euros to make ir permanent.  80m Euros is about £70m.  So maybe at best we could have done £70m.  Was just thinking they'd want a bit more in the sale fee if they were missing out on a huge loan fee.

[ElDiablo]

2 minutes ago, Haz said:

Rather be rinsed than the way we played t'other day. 

 

Don't disagree, but clubs will be licking their lips when they see our number calling in future.

[RS]

Good business. We’ll be selling him for £50m to a Saudi club in a couple of years. 

[NEEJ]

3 minutes ago, James said:

I said assisted the assist. So are you saying Livramento passed to himself

 

you are choosing an odd fight and losing it really badly here

I think he's pointing out Barnes provided the assist to the assister of the assist. 

[black_n_white]

1 minute ago, RS said:

Good business. We’ll be selling him for £50m to a Saudi club in a couple of years. 

Really?

[Famous Nick]

55m? wow

 

we started the bidding 25+5 or 30+5 a month ago didnt we?

[RS]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Really?

Aye. We’ll get nearly all our money back

[Abacus]

While I tend to agree with the football finance experts on here about the fee, I'm not in the least bit bothered.

 

I think him and Woltemade have the potential to be a fearsome strikeforce in time.

 

I also think we've done some good squad building in general and I'll be excited for the actual football instead now.

[Optimistic Nut]

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo said:

25m initial bid all the way to 55m is embarrassing.

 

Absolutely rinsed.

 

Only if you think you're getting a striker who's just scored 19 goals for anywhere near £25m.

[bobbydazzla]

Oh, is this the way they say the future's meant to feel?
Or just fifty thousand people sitting by a field?
And I don't quite understand just what this feeling is
But that's okay 'cause we're all sorted out and he’s called Wizz 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[54]

I want every to go look at the fee Osula is going for, just look at it.... Stare at it...

 

Wissa for £55m isn't looking like such a bad deal after all is it.....

[jonny1403]

12 minutes ago, Adam P said:

My read of the summer is this, keeping Isak was the strategy all along and we only folded after the bosses went to visit him. After that meeting, the Woltemade and Wissa deals were signed off. 

 

The fact that we were able to move on Woltemade so soon after they resigned themselves / decided to let Isak go, does strongly suggest previous bids for other targets were not what they appeared. I dont think Yasir and Reuben go to his house unless the absolute desire of everyone at the club was for him to stay. The whole summer seems to have finally hinged on that event, which we rightly pused to the very last minute. Primarily as we explored ways to resolve it with him staying and then latterly as it minimises any work Liverpool can do with the player with no pre-season. 

 

Given Woltemade, i am still a bit baffled by the Sesko and Ekitike bids (the two with similar profiles). Why not just go for Woltemade 6 weeks ago and avoid all this? It has to be because the strategy was to keep Isak and therefore logically, the strategy cant have been at that time 'find a replacement'.

 

The alternative is that we knew he was going and it took us until last week to realise that Woltemade might be available (otherwise why not pivot to him when Ekitike fails? Why compete with Liverpool and Man U for their known targets?). Which makes no sense given the chat in Germany and Bayern has been constant all summer. He was available. 

 

 

 

 

The story was that we had enquired ages ago but were under the impression we had no chance of Woltemade until last week.

[Adam P]

2 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

 

The story was that we had enquired ages ago but were under the impression we had no chance of Woltemade until last week.

 

Sounds a bit far fetched given that we were linked with him months ago and that Woltemade referred to multiple conversations with the club. He just suddenly decided that he fancied Newcasle massively coincidentally 24 hours after Yasir visits Isak's house? 

[ElDiablo]

13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Only if you think you're getting a striker who's just scored 19 goals for anywhere near £25m.

 

In that case lowballing and then eventually doubling the bid makes it all look a bit amateurish.

 

Never mind, got a warm body in which is what matters more.

[jonny1403]

1 minute ago, Adam P said:

 

Sounds a bit far fetched given that we were linked with him months ago and that Woltemade referred to multiple conversations with the club. He just suddenly decided that he fancied Newcasle massively coincidentally 24 hours after Yasir visits Isak's house? 

 

It wasn't Woltemade it was Stuttgart. They had quoted close to 100m to Bayern earlier in the window and then we found out we could get him for closer to 70.

[BermyToon]

Good signing.

 

£55M for a proven, not injury-prone, PL striker is reasonable. I'd imagine we're fine from a PSR standpoint also after selling the rat and potentially Osula.

 

Finally feeling confident about our ability to score goals.

[Adam P]

1 minute ago, jonny1403 said:

 

It wasn't Woltemade it was Stuttgart. They had quoted close to 100m to Bayern earlier in the window and then we found out we could get him for closer to 70.

 

What wasnt Woltemade? They found this all out last Tuesday, then did the deal? Fantasy land if you think thats how these deals work. 

[relámpago blanco]

4 minutes ago, BermyToon said:

Good signing.

 

£55M for a proven, not injury-prone, PL striker is reasonable. I'd imagine we're fine from a PSR standpoint also after selling the rat and potentially Osula.

 

Finally feeling confident about our ability to score goals.

I think we are fine from a psr perspective for a while.  We've sold Almiron, Longstaff, Osula and Isak bringing in circa 180M.  Whilst spending 250ish

[Hanshithispantz]

30 minutes ago, Adam P said:

 

Given Woltemade, i am still a bit baffled by the Sesko and Ekitike bids (the two with similar profiles). Why not just go for Woltemade 6 weeks ago and avoid all this?

 

 

Woltemade is a much bigger risk than Ekitike and Sesko.

 

Sesko will look shite at Man Utd, but he has 2 seasons in Germany with just under a 1 in 2 record. Woltemade has basically 1 good half seasons goalscoring form, and has never really played as a 9 after finding his form.

 

We've scouted Ekitike for years.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[ToonAbroad]

 4 year contract too. Seems about right.

[madras]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

Woltemade is a much bigger risk than Ekitike and Sesko.

 

Sesko will look shite at Man Utd, but he has 2 seasons in Germany with just under a 1 in 2 record. Woltemade has basically 1 good half seasons goalscoring form, and has never really played as a 9 after finding his form.

Also his move to Bayern seemed sealed.

[NG32]

1 minute ago, ToonAbroad said:

 4 year contract too. Seems about right.

Its just a bloke getting out of a car , sky exclusive. 

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Woltemade is a much bigger risk than Ekitike and Sesko.

 

Sesko will look shite at Man Utd, but he has 2 seasons in Germany with just under a 1 in 2 record. Woltemade has basically 1 good half seasons goalscoring form, and has never really played as a 9 after finding his form.

 

We've scouted Ekitike for years.

 

 

 

 

 

Although just looking at Wolte's fantastic footwork makes me feel he's the real deal.