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Benjamin Šeško (playing for Man United)

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AyeDubbleYoo

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1 minute ago, Decky said:

Only thing we can hope for is Man Utd don't fancy paying the same fee we're willing to pay because if we both get a bid accepted we've no chance. 


I’d say it’s more likely we lose out if they want to pay more. Equal choice and I’d make us slight favourites. 
 

Ah, if you mean because of wages, fair enough. 

 

 

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Mattoon

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1 minute ago, Decky said:

Only thing we can hope for is Man Utd don't fancy paying the same fee we're willing to pay because if we both get a bid accepted we've no chance. 

 

We need to slam our nuts on the table ASAP as we know they're strapped for cash, as soon as they sell Antony they'll want to match us.

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J7

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I mean Man Utd are about as bad as us now in farting about with low ball bids, but they’ve been slightly more successful in eventually getting the deal done. I’d expect him to go there. 

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Infinitely Content

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I think this window has put to bed the idea that Champion's League qualification and silverware hold the key to signing better players. It's money and money only, all else is just an embellishment. Which indeed works both ways, as if we do fail to qualify for it again next season, beyond financial benefits it's of little consequence to the supposed 'pool' of players unlocked. 

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ChrisMcQuillan

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1 minute ago, Infinitely Content said:

I think this window has put to bed the idea that Champion's League qualification and silverware hold the key to signing better players. It's money and money only, all else is just an embellishment. Which indeed works both ways, as if we do fail to qualify for it again next season, beyond financial benefits it's of little consequence to the supposed 'pool' of players unlocked. 

 

Champions League is nothing more than a convenient tool for the media to manufacture moves away from clubs on footballing grounds, rather than admitting the status quo has an inherent in-built advantage to the Top 6.

 

They were desperate for us to miss out on Champions League so Isak would go elsewhere as a player of his quality "deserves Champions League".

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TRon

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't pay too much attention to "pull" - especially for foreign players. Within Europe - players go where they get paid the most.

 

Man City took some of the best players from Arsenal and Man Utd because of money. That's what it boils down too for most players.

 

That's why fans opinions need to be taken with a pinch of salt tbh. Complaining is the easy part, finding a solution is why you hire experts. Paying more money when you have rules specifically preventing you from doing so is a good example of the difference when the rubber meets the road. 

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TRon

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8 minutes ago, Infinitely Content said:

I think this window has put to bed the idea that Champion's League qualification and silverware hold the key to signing better players. It's money and money only, all else is just an embellishment. Which indeed works both ways, as if we do fail to qualify for it again next season, beyond financial benefits it's of little consequence to the supposed 'pool' of players unlocked. 

 

 

CL qualification helps, would be daft to think it doesn't. But being a cartel club helps more. It's simple enough really. 

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2 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

 

Champions League is nothing more than a convenient tool for the media to manufacture moves away from clubs on footballing grounds, rather than admitting the status quo has an inherent in-built advantage to the Top 6.

 

They were desperate for us to miss out on Champions League so Isak would go elsewhere as a player of his quality "deserves Champions League".


Indeed, and now they're running with the "British record fee" narrative in attempt to fool our supporters into feeling submissive and even grateful for a £120m transfer. Sadly it's working in some quarters too.

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Just now, TRon said:

 

 

CL qualification helps, would be daft to think it doesn't. But being a cartel club helps more. It's simple enough really. 


I used to believe so, just as I used to believe fan base, adoration and the prospect of iconic status meant something. Those ideas are aligned with the romantic attitude towards the sport which captivates and moves me, however now I think it's as simple as put more money on the table and all else is completely irrelevant. Even club stature, as that's another narrative pushed when actually it's simply a misdirection from the true source of persuasion.

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8 minutes ago, Infinitely Content said:


I used to believe so, just as I used to believe fan base, adoration and the prospect of iconic status meant something. Those ideas are aligned with the romantic attitude towards the sport which captivates and moves me, however now I think it's as simple as put more money on the table and all else is completely irrelevant. Even club stature, as that's another narrative pushed when actually it's simply a misdirection from the true source of persuasion.

 

 

Well yeah obviously money is the biggest factor. That's why the PL brought in rules specifically to stop us using ours. 

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10 minutes ago, Jewel said:

Is Sesko is taking this long to decide, does he really want to come to us? 

 

Smacks of keeping us as backup incase something more fancy doesnt come along.

Is it that long? And I’d assume most players would look to go to the best possible club that’s interested in them. We can’t expect every player we go for to see us as their dream club. 

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Ghandis Flip-Flop

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I don’t believe we were ever actually in for this kid personally. All the talk earlier in the window was that Arsenal switched to Gyokeres due to his wage demands, I doubt we could afford his wages unless he’s had a significant change of heart on that front.

 

This rumour always felt like it was journo’s seeing who was still available and making presumptions, rather than there being genuine interest on our part IMO

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CL qualification helps relative only to the clubs below but any benefit of it relative to the cartel is off-set by their revenues set prior to FFP and is limited.

Another sad consequence of PSR is that apart from an adventure football-wise, CL qualification now has no effect on establishing yourself in the elite, if you happened to be outside when the PSR dropped. Its as likely to help ourselves and Villa as it was Willem II and Leicester despite club size and owner ambitions.

Ironically its made the organic growth they suggest as an alternative to spending money completely impossible if you want to be at that level as being succesful and CL money were the only hopes.

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