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27 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

We’re all certain he’s going to Man U and they are convinced he’s coming here :lol:
 

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Fans are always pessimistic, but in reality bigger wages and bigger legacy usually wins through. 

 

He'll be disappointed not to play CL but he'll figure it's only one season. 

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16 minutes ago, St1pe said:

I reckon either of those moves would be good for Sesko but the wages at Man U are going to be significantly higher. We’re going to get mugged off again here. 


 

Id say there was significantly less pressure here than at Man United however they will be paying astronomical wages for him to play in fewer games. 
 

It’s a no brainer for him really isn’t it?

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39 minutes ago, madras said:

Neither Bruno nor Tonali were out the blue like Isak. There was time for both deals to be hijacked ( add in the way agents work, I'll bet other clubs knew about both  situations before they became public).I guess they weren't because those other clubs weren't sufficiently interested.

Bruno was sorted within a month however we look at it.

 

I don't know when the rumours started with Tonali. But the bid was publicised 20th June (that's when his thread was created) - all but confirmed 23rd June. Unless you have other timelines - that's a brutally swift transfer at least publicly.


Point remains - you go after potentially elite players other clubs haven't moved on yet and you try to get it done quickly.

 

 

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Just now, The College Dropout said:

Bruno was sorted within a month however we look at it.

 

I don't know when the rumours started with Tonali. But the bid was publicised 20th June (that's when his thread was created) - all but confirmed 23rd June. Unless you have other timelines - that's a brutally swift transfer at least publicly.

 

 

That's because other teams didn't throw their hats in the ring. 

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2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

That's because other teams didn't throw their hats in the ring. 

Not in our control.

 

We can agree terms in principal and agree fees with the club. That's in our control. Let's do that with Sesko - no dithering.

 

That we did with Mbeumo and Delap and for both of those we knew the competition would be stiff. With Wissa and Sesko - we've dithered.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Fans are always pessimistic, but in reality bigger wages and bigger legacy usually wins through. 

 

He'll be disappointed not to play CL but he'll figure it's only one season. 


Far from guaranteed they’ll get in this year. 

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10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Bruno was sorted within a month however we look at it.

 

I don't know when the rumours started with Tonali. But the bid was publicised 20th June (that's when his thread was created) - all but confirmed 23rd June. Unless you have other timelines - that's a brutally swift transfer at least publicly.


Point remains - you go after potentially elite players other clubs haven't moved on yet and you try to get it done quickly.

 

 

 

How do you get it done quickly ? 

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8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Not in our control.

 

We can agree terms in principal and agree fees with the club. That's in our control. Let's do that with Sesko - no dithering.

 

That we did with Mbeumo and Delap and for both of those we knew the competition would be stiff. With Wissa and Sesko - we've dithered.

 

 

 

What agent will agree a package if they think a bigger one is possible incoming ?

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13 minutes ago, madras said:

What agent will agree a package if they think a bigger one is possible incoming ?

We can present what we think is fair.

 

Within a short amount of time last summer - we agreed a fee with Reims(?) and presented Etikite our package. That was done quickly. Etikite and agent knew PSG were interested, stalled and eventually moved there. That's fine, no issue with any party in that situation.

 

With recent targets, we dither and dither. That increases the likelihood of other clubs getting involved.

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5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


He’ll be starry eyed about Man Utd? 

 

Just because in England fans are laughing at them, doesn't mean they aren't big hitters abroad. Kids in the east, and probably Europe as well will still buy a Man U shirt over a Newcastle one. You don't see that?

 

 

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Just now, The College Dropout said:

We can present what we think is fair.

 

Within a short amount of time last summer - we agreed a fee with Reims(?) and presented Etikite our package. That was done quickly. Etikite and agent knew PSG were interested, stalled and eventually moved there. That's fine, no issue with any party in that situation.

 

With recent targets, we dither and dither. That increases the likelihood of other clubs getting involved.

Is that getting things done quickly or just making an offer and buggering off if its not immediately accepted ? In the Ekitike example we hung on for ages, could have upped it and upped it to try and press the issue.

 

At the start of the window I bet few would have thought from the pool of Delap, Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko we wouldn't be able to get one.

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35 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Not in our control.

 

We can agree terms in principal and agree fees with the club. That's in our control. Let's do that with Sesko - no dithering.

 

That we did with Mbeumo and Delap and for both of those we knew the competition would be stiff. With Wissa and Sesko - we've dithered.

 

 

 

 

It's good to get some insight into the inner workings of our transfers.

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9 minutes ago, madras said:

Is that getting things done quickly or just making an offer and buggering off if its not immediately accepted ? In the Ekitike example we hung on for ages, could have upped it and upped it to try and press the issue.

 

At the start of the window I bet few would have thought from the pool of Delap, Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko we wouldn't be able to get one.

As soon as Etikite started stalling - we would've seriously started exploring alternative options. Rather than being stuck trying to agree on a transfer fee with Reims.

 

I'm sorry, Madras but I think you're taking the piss. Getting more information earlier in a time-bound setting is always better than later. That's not much of a discussion or debate.

 

The bolded are 3 of the hottest young strikers in Europe/PL. We would've anticipated competition from other teams. I've no issue with our approach to Delap & Pedro either. We did the best we could in good time. Etikite, we didn't even agree on a fee to my knowledge. Sesko we seem to be dithering. Wissa not agreed a fee either.

 

If we always did this and it worked for us - so be it. But we haven't always done this and it doesn't look like it's working. So far - we are having an all-time bad window in terms of getting deals done. Manchester United levels of not getting deals done.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't pay too much attention to "pull" - especially for foreign players. Within Europe - players go where they get paid the most.

 

Man City took some of the best players from Arsenal and Man Utd because of money. That's what it boils down too for most players.

Location (London) also a big factor for foreign players I’d imagine.

 

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54 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Fans are always pessimistic, but in reality bigger wages and bigger legacy usually wins through. 

 

He'll be disappointed not to play CL but he'll figure it's only one season. 

Man U are 2/1 to finish top 5 so it would be a brave assumption that it'll be one season only. 

 

Admittedly we are by no means nailed on to secure CL again either.

 

That said, a player's priority will always be wages.

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