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2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I'd rather just judge him on what he does tbh. I don't think we should sign him permanently but he'll do as a loan back up. 

Totally fine as a loan backup but that's his limits for me. Dyche always got credit for keeping Burnley up so many seasons but I've always kept my opinion that it's no coincidence their luck ran out and they got relegated the season we bought Pope.

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Just now, Gawalls said:

Totally fine as a loan backup but that's his limits for me. Dyche always got credit for keeping Burnley up so many seasons but I've always kept my opinion that it's no coincidence their luck ran out and they got relegated the season we bought Pope.

 

 

Pope's been brilliant for us, but this season he's been very wobbly. That injury might have saved his England prospects IMO, he was looking decidedly dodgy for a few weeks leading up to it. 

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3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Pope maybe saves the free kick but on the other hand Ramsdale doesn't concede that brain fart against Marseilles.

 

The biggest thing with Ramsdale is that he seems slow when diving from a standing position.

 

See the Neto handball 'goal', he was on the same slow motion that he was for the second Spurs goal.

 

Thought he was decent enough today overall

I genuinely don't think we'd have got CL twice if we had Ramsdale in the team. People on here are quick to praise everyone for their parts in that except Pope. He's not perfect and it may be time for us to upgrade but I still reckon a lot of teams would be better if they had Pope in it 

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1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

I genuinely don't think we'd have got CL twice if we had Ramsdale in the team. People on here are quick to praise everyone for their parts in that except Pope. He's not perfect and it may be time for us to upgrade but I still reckon a lot of teams would be better if they had Pope in it 

 

I'm not bashing Pope at all

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4 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

I'm not bashing Pope at all

Never mentioned your or anyone's name  but a lot of people on here saying he's not good enough for us or I wouldn't be upset if he never plays for us again. Personally I just don't get that opinion on him. 

 

My opinion is when pope returns then games like that we'll get over the line and bring the three points home 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

I think that's harsh on him for both goals. Also got my doubts about him but couldn't fault him today.


I dunno man, I need to watch the Pedro one back but he didn’t exactly make it difficult for him. Just rolled it through him. Maybe harsh , I’ll need to see it again. 

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23 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Pope maybe saves the free kick but on the other hand Ramsdale doesn't concede that brain fart against Marseilles.

 

The biggest thing with Ramsdale is that he seems slow when diving from a standing position.

 

See the Neto handball 'goal', he was on the same slow motion that he was for the second Spurs goal.

 

Thought he was decent enough today overall


Agree with this. The second paragraph in particular. 
 

I always say he is rooted to the spot and in his defence, for crosses and coming to sweep up. He has been much better the last two games. 
 

His dives always tend to be from a standing start and looks full stretch for everything. The slow-mo replays of shots that are going wide are always hilarious for this :lol: Doesn’t help that he seems slow to react to stuff, as well. He is never moving his feet across. 
 

I think he really helped us in possession today and bar League Cup games. It’s the first time I’ve really noticed it and thought it was a weapon for the side and worth the trade off. I suppose

maybe Everton to a much lesser degree. 
 

I think overall having Pope back would make us less likely to concede and stronger from set pieces. But we would lose some of that control on the ball and find it even harder than we do now to retain possession. 
 

New keeper required, either way. 

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1 hour ago, Superior Acuña said:

I think that's harsh on him for both goals. Also got my doubts about him but couldn't fault him today.

Couldn’t disagree more. He should be looking to take a skip to the right the instant that James sets off to take the free kick. Then the second goal has gone straight through him.

 

in between, there was an incident of them getting in behind us which was screaming out for him to come and deal with with his feet.

 

First half, the handball which he allowed to get past him was just farcical.

 

His starting position is poor, which contributes to our centre-backs dropping deep, and he’s generally non-existent when it comes to dealing with corners.

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I have to say I was pleased when we signed him and it is great to see what a keeper comfortable on the ball brings to the team. But he just isn’t great at the basics you need from a keeper at this level. Good free kick but it’s come a long way, not hit hard and is at a decent height for a save to be made. 

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14 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Dubs was significantly worse in the 23-24 season than Ramsdale has been so far.

 

 

We've got used to having a really top keeper in Pope for a few years and got spoiled. Pope's handling of crosses has been exemplary, but not this season funnily enough. If people could see Ramsdale for what he is, a £4m loan signing as back up, they'd probably be a lot less harsh.

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24 minutes ago, London Mag said:

Laughable in here. After Marseille most of you wanted Popey binned. Rambo comes in and gets blamed for every goal ignoring the shit show in front of him.

Can't see much he's done wrong apart from the weak punch against Spurs

 


Spot on, people love a scapegoat in here :lol:


MAYBE, MAYBE, Donnaruma get’s to that James goal, even then it’s probably a goal 9 out 10 times when it goes off the post like that and in. 

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