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Our strength at defensive set pieces and cornerstone of our side. Pope is massive for that. 
 

Pope has such great presence. For me that still means a lot.

 

It’s going out the modern game.  Of the top teams only Courtois, Donnarumma, Alisson, Neuer still have that. They all have goalkeeper builds [emoji38] without seeing much of him I liked Mamadarshvelli just due to his size and frame 

 

I also like my centrebacks to win their headers over some nice passing but I can concede that’s not the modern way 

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3 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said:

 

Say what you will about the keepers we have looked at (and ultimately ended up with), but you can see the thinking behind us needing a keeper with this sort of range of passing. If he can reliably hit the runs of Gordon and Elanga like this then it's going to have a pretty big impact on being able to break teams down.

 

Could be transformative for us. I'm also kind of glad Ramsdale doesn't excel at short range passing for the purposes of "playing out from the back". Feel like even the keepers who are known to be good at that frequently fuck it up. Long/medium range passing out from the back should present much less risk, although I'm sure we will try to go shorter as well. 

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Pope has such great presence. For me that still means a lot.

 

Do agree with this. But also think it's not as big a miss for us as it could be. Eddie has put together quite the team of massive bastards, none of whome are afraid to assert themselves in the area when defending set pieces. 

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Just now, sushimonster85 said:

 

Do agree with this. But also think it's not as big a miss for us as it could be. Eddie has put together quite the team of massive bastards, none of whome are afraid to assert themselves in the area when defending set pieces. 

For me nothing beats a GK that just comes out and grabs it.  Nothing. Barnes often play with 4 CBs and Raya is still one of the most proactive at crosses. 
And we are a team that does a lot of actual defending.  More than Arsenal at least. 

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7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Memories of Pickford booting it long to wingers and attackers that either went astray or were lost every single time in the euros final. And he didn’t stop.  It wasn’t working and he kept doing it.  Infuriating. 

But that is all Pickford does. Boots it long.

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17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

For me nothing beats a GK that just comes out and grabs it.  Nothing. Barnes often play with 4 CBs and Raya is still one of the most proactive at crosses. 
And we are a team that does a lot of actual defending.  More than Arsenal at least. 

 

 

This is me as well, love me a goalkeeper who commands the penalty area. But I'm hoping Ramsdale is decent in that regard as well. 

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4 hours ago, KingArthur said:

If Pope is off and we make Ramsdale permanent, then we will buy another keeper next summer. This is decent deal: if he is good, we make him no 1. If he fails, we send him back, if he is ok, we make him a good no 2.


We likely bring in a low cost GK. Not spending £20m on Ramsdale for him not to be number 1. Best case, we accept it’s an expensive loan and leave it at that. Pope is settled in area and accepts a one year deal to remain at a top club, and we nail a long term GK.

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4 hours ago, Sibierski said:

So disappointed in this deal. It won’t be a loan, we will make it a permanent buy because Pope will be off next summer. 
 

Just average as average can be. Like a Matt Targett level of signing which I’d hope we moved on from. 

 

 

 

Or a Dan Burn...

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10 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


We likely bring in a low cost GK. Not spending £20m on Ramsdale for him not to be number 1. Best case, we accept it’s an expensive loan and leave it at that. Pope is settled in area and accepts a one year deal to remain at a top club, and we nail a long term GK.

We'll see about that. 20 million for Gk of Ramsdale's CV is not that bad, IF he is ok with us. But we don't even know what the price next summer is. 

Anyway either it is Ramsdale for few years or next summer we get 2 GKs with Ramsdale and Pope out the door.

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2 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Okay, I've turned. I'm all inn on this now. Just keep your focus, you daft cunt.

 

Said yesterday, the reveal video should just be exactly 90 minutes of him concentrating. Put that worry to bed on day one. 

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24 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Or a Dan Burn...


Can put a price on playing for your boyhood club getting that extra % and consistency in your game.

 

Ramsdale has been at multiple clubs, had highs but lows, and him as a long term goalkeeper is underwhelming of the highest level. He’s not a disaster, but he’s also not great, just your straight down the middle average goalkeeper which is not fancy for the price point it would be for a permanent move.

 

I’ll back him as if he does well, we do well, but there’s no sugar coating it’s an abject signing.

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He’s had a lot of ups and downs, he’s played behind a great defence and a shite one, he’s still young for a keeper and this is a huge opportunity for him.

 

heres hoping we can add him to our fairly sizeable “unwanted by the fans but turned out to be a bargain” list of signings.

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I was “ok” with us not signing a keeper if it meant more money available for other positions. This signing is a step better than not signing a GK at all while still allowing us to spend more in other areas. We just need that last bit sorted, actually getting players over the line. Having a keeper with decent feet will obviously make a difference to our overall play, no doubt. Not the most exciting in any way but still a solid addition if he can find his best form. Not much to lose really. 

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