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Just now, tarie4 said:

Yeah, I see your point, but that's just how the market is these days. Check out the backup players at the top six clubs, they're all worth over 50 million. Fulham wanted 50 million for Munez, and he was just a backup!

 

If you're looking for a Wilson replacement (a goal every three games in the Premier League),

 

You're not getting them for 30 million.


They’re worth £50m+ because the money in prem is strong and clubs don’t need to buy. It doesn’t = quality.

 

Vardy is honestly a better replacement for next 12 months.

 

We create enough good chances, if they’re a striker that’s competent, they’ll score goals. There has to be players abroad who can offer that to us instead of paying £60m+ because they’re an ‘established’ name.

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2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yup.

 

I think Wolves will be looking at the Joao Pedro deal and are after similar.

 

He's pretty much the same age as Strand Larsen (just 1 year younger) and Chelsea have forked out £60 million for him i.e,. £55 million + £5 million in add-ons. A fee that we had also bid if I remember correctly.

 

I think that's what it's going to take in order to strike a deal.

 

There was a Wolves fan on a podcast describing Larsen as having provided important goals but being limited technically and not blessed with great mobility. I don't think he should be commanding the same fee as Pedro who had us and Chelsea chasing him down. 

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4 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


Then why are we targeting £50m-£60m strikers for that? 
 

I find it hard to believe we can’t pick someone up from Europe for half that. Theirno Barry was half that. 

We need someone to do the job ASAP, so let's pay a bit more for a sure thing and get Champions League qualifications again.

 

 

Liverpool wants Isak, so where does Ekitike go? If he plays on the left wing, then what about Gakpo? That's some serious attacking depth. We could have JSL or Wissa with Isak, then Barnes, Gordon, Murphy, and Elanga – that's depth and quality.

 

Those are two really good forward lines that could compete against AC Milan during the week and Fulham on Saturday.

 

That's what we need.

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3 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Yeah, I see your point, but that's just how the market is these days. Check out the backup players at the top six clubs, they're all worth over 50 million. Fulham wanted 50 million for Munez, and he was just a backup!

 

If you're looking for a Wilson replacement (a goal every three games in the Premier League),

 

You're not getting them for 30 million.

He is also a load of shite, which is the bigger problem IMO.

 

You don't mind paying those prices for someone who is somewhat decent. The problem lies with the fact we are being quoted these prices for players that are bang average.

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2 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


They’re worth £50m+ because the money in prem is strong and clubs don’t need to buy. It doesn’t = quality.

 

Vardy is honestly a better replacement for next 12 months.

 

We create enough good chances, if they’re a striker that’s competent, they’ll score goals. There has to be players abroad who can offer that to us instead of paying £60m+ because they’re an ‘established’ name.

Well the club dont feel that way it seems at the moment. They want a more epl based approach, I guess.

 

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6 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Yeah, I see your point, but that's just how the market is these days. Check out the backup players at the top six clubs, they're all worth over 50 million. Fulham wanted 50 million for Munez, and he was just a backup!

 

If you're looking for a Wilson replacement (a goal every three games in the Premier League),

 

You're not getting them for 30 million.

 

 

Muniz was absolute shite yesterday for Fulham, and that's disregarding his own goal which is the nearest he got to a goal all afternoon. Pretty sure they were asking for £60m for him as well. 

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1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

There was a Wolves fan on a podcast describing Larsen as having provided important goals but being limited technically and not blessed with great mobility. I don't think he should be commanding the same fee as Pedro who had us and Chelsea chasing him down. 

 

They're completely different types of players with different qualities.

 

If Newcastle feel Strand Larsen will also score the goals they need in the current team and setup then they will deem him to be just as valuable.

 

Has nothing to do with whether Chelsea are in for him or not. That would be a crazy metric to look at when determining what player to sign!

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8 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

And Wissa?

Not happening it seems, despite the rejection it sounds like Wolves will do business for a higher offer whereas Brentford have said no to a sale.

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21 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


Yes. You don’t spend £60m on someone like Larsen as a rotation option. 
 

The talk around Isak is to help us maintain our strength in negotiations for when Liverpool come back and for us not paying over the price (lol) for a striker.

 

But if we’re moving for £60m for Larsen, it’s clear to me that Isak is agreed to be sold by end of window and we’ll try and push for Wissa up to end for £45m. 

It's not quite as simple as "rotation option" though. It might end up that way depending on what happens with Isak but if he doesn't integrate into the squad then SL is automatically the #1 striker. Plus, whoever we bring in this summer will hopefully end up as Isak's replacement next summer.

 

And, if you think about it, if a Wilson replacement was going to be £35m or so then this is only costing us an extra £5m on this years books (assuming £60m on 5 year deal).

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Just now, KaKa said:

 

They're completely different types of players with different qualities.

 

If Newcastle feel Strand Larsen will also score the goals they need in the current team and setup then they will deem him to be just as valuable.

 

Has nothing to do with whether Chelsea are in for him or not. That would be a crazy metric to look at when determining what player to sign!

Demand does in fact help determine price. 

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Just now, KaKa said:

 

They're completely different types of players with different qualities.

 

If Newcastle feel Strand Larsen will also score the goals they need in the current team and setup then they will deem him to be just as valuable.

 

Has nothing to do with whether Chelsea are in for him or not. That would be a crazy metric to look at when determining what player to sign!

 

 

I get why we might think Larsen would work in a Chris Wood sort of way, but I was far more excited about Pedro. This is just a personal take, I like players who have a bit of pace and explosiveness about them. Larsen seems more like a target man nuisance type.

 

This is just a personal take, and of course I could be massively wrong, but he doesn't excite me at all. Think we will end up getting fleeced for a very average player. 

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Just watched a highlights package of JSL

 

Take back whatever I've said, he's the next Shearer, give him the number 9 and get him signed!

 

We are gonna have to overpay for whoever we get this far into the window!

 

....just want a yellow sky sports ticker that we've signed a striker, any striker at this point.

 

 

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1 minute ago, nufc123 said:

Joel Bland saying second bid to come. 60m likely get done. Wolves after another striker.


He’s calling Uche a striker, which he isn’t. He’s a midfielder with 4 career goals.

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Honestly, it would be so refreshing to maybe unearth a talent who is under the radar, or looking a bit further afield than the PL at times. Yes we did it with Thiaw, but my days, it feels like there is a mandatory tick box for 'Based in England' on our transfer lists.

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2 minutes ago, Jagten said:

Demand does in fact help determine price. 

 

 

Of course it does. If we didn't need a striker desperately these clubs wouldn't be jacking their prices up £5m/week as the window gets closer to deadline. 

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