Big Geordie Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-newcastle-fans-deal-with-it-thats-modern-football-for-you-6260279.html Awful - full of typical lazy cliches from a southerner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 In previous windows, it would be appear that despite promises, money hasnt been made readily available due to the debt levels we were carrying. How on earth do you come to this conclusion? We can't have repaid 'debt' because the debt is held by Ashley and as Dekka keeps saying 'Mike hasn't taken a penny out of the club' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Don't know if this point has been raised, but can Ashley change the name of a stadium he doesn't even own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Don't know if this point has been raised, but can Ashley change the name of a stadium he doesn't even own? He does own it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Don't know if this point has been raised, but can Ashley change the name of a stadium he doesn't even own? He does own it. Guess that makes me look a bit daft! I always thought the stadium was owned by the council, when did that change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 For the millionth time, the stadium is owned by NUFC and the land it sits on is owned by the council and leased to NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Its the land its on he doesn't own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 He owns our soul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 He owns our soul Footballs soul was sold the minute Sky bought the rights. You can't just expect a piece of your soul to be sold, it's all or nothing. Every single chance to create revenue (no matter how contentious) will be expoited (or attempted to be expoilted) to the absolute maximum and not just at NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well, if/when the lease expires, the stadium ownership will be transferred over to the landowner in most cases, so the council might want to allow the lease to expire, then lease it back to NUFC under the condition that the name of the stadium can't be change. That is if the lease isn't something ridiculous like a 99 year lease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 He owns our soul Footballs soul was sold the minute Sky bought the rights. You can't just expect a piece of your soul to be sold, it's all or nothing. Every single chance to create revenue (no matter how contentious) will be expoited (or attempted to be expoilted) to the absolute maximum and not just at NUFC It was sold way before Sky came in. Sponsor on a shirt Players advertising non sport related goods Stadia being named Branded football boots (meaning things like 'Predator' not 'Adidas') Sky buying rights A bank sponsoring the main league in the country Having names printed on shirts The Champions League Taking the World Cup to places like South Africa and USA, The Euros to Ukraine etc Players having image rights built into contracts Thats a very quick list of the top of my head since the 80's. Lets be honest, we've all bought into some of the above and most of the comercial aspects of the game have improved the game (at least initially before the momentum of change took it too far). Its not just football though, the whole world continues to change and commercialism is one of the main drivers of this. I'm not saying that this is a good thing, but you can either adapt to the change and use it to your advantage or try and fight it and miss out on the good it can bring. People and Companies who can find the ideal middle ground are lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Well, if/when the lease expires, the stadium ownership will be transferred over to the landowner in most cases, so the council might want to allow the lease to expire, then lease it back to NUFC under the condition that the name of the stadium can't be change. That is if the lease isn't something ridiculous like a 99 year lease A quick Google and I couldn't see anything, but I'd guess that the lease will be for a decent length of time still - certainly too long for it to have any impact on the naming now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 SJH signed the lease with the counil for 99 years when he bought the club so he could go ahead and develop the stadium without the owrry of the council pulling the plug. Its a long way so dont even think about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Couldn't care less what the stadium is called, the main priority is the team and that is improving dramatically thanks to Mr Ashley & Co. We are enjoying a nice period of stability, pretty much unheard of with NUFC so lets not spoil it over a little issue like the name. Are we the only club in the football league with a ground called St James Park? are we the only 'Magpies' Get real............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The name gets more and more hideous everyday. I have a proposal! NO can make it a banning offense to call St James' Park by its new name, so these ugly 3 new words put together, when referring to the great SJP will incur a short symbolic ban. The idea is to make it a point to ALWAYS refer to SJP as SJP in any context, even when posting news stories, people will have to edit out the new stadium name and replace it with SJP etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 In previous windows, it would be appear that despite promises, money hasnt been made readily available due to the debt levels we were carrying. How on earth do you come to this conclusion? We can't have repaid 'debt' because the debt is held by Ashley and as Dekka keeps saying 'Mike hasn't taken a penny out of the club' He has taken money out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Couldn't care less what the stadium is called, the main priority is the team and that is improving dramatically thanks to Mr Ashley & Co. We are enjoying a nice period of stability, pretty much unheard of with NUFC so lets not spoil it over a little issue like the name. Are we the only club in the football league with a ground called St James Park? are we the only 'Magpies' Get real............ Yeah fuck history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 If you missed the paper review on ssn you missed a cracker Custis was on. So emotional about this, completely against it, reinforcing the extra finance will not be spent The presenters said it was the most emotional paper review ever! Sun & the Star both had surprisingly good articles on it today. Danny Fullofshit in particular and he hates us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 For anyone willing accept a name change for the money.....£8m-£10m is never worth giving it up for, no affordable amount is. Aston fucking Villa get £8m a year just for their shirt sponsor. They could have got about £8m for us without whoring out St James Park and thats before bothering with the questiuon of whether it will be spent on the team. Guess we can just live in the blind hope some nice company will offer a decent amount for the two and put the name back for good publicity.........some fucking hope though :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 In previous windows, it would be appear that despite promises, money hasnt been made readily available due to the debt levels we were carrying. How on earth do you come to this conclusion? We can't have repaid 'debt' because the debt is held by Ashley and as Dekka keeps saying 'Mike hasn't taken a penny out of the club' He has taken money out. I don't believe so, unless you can state when and how much ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Couldn't care less what the stadium is called, the main priority is the team and that is improving dramatically thanks to Mr Ashley & Co. We are enjoying a nice period of stability, pretty much unheard of with NUFC so lets not spoil it over a little issue like the name. Are we the only club in the football league with a ground called St James Park? are we the only 'Magpies' Get real............ In a way I wish I could be this small minded. Life might be easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 For anyone willing accept a name change for the money.....£8m-£10m is never worth giving it up for, no affordable amount is. Aston fucking Villa get £8m a year just for their shirt sponsor. They could have got about £8m for us without whoring out St James Park and thats before bothering with the questiuon of whether it will be spent on the team. Guess we can just live in the blind hope some nice company will offer a decent amount for the two and put the name back for good publicity.........some fucking hope though :'( That's a very good idea actually, they would get a shit load of publicity, at first at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 i just hope the fucking wheels don't come off the season now. he could have waited until the summer to announce a new stadium and shirt sponsor package instead of doing it halfway through a season where we've had our best start for 16 years. the bedsheet brigade will be out in force at the chelsea match and i just hope that pardew and the players aren't affected by it all and play as well as they have been so far this season. would be 'typical newcastle' to go on a bad run after this and pardew to get the bullet just as the transfer window shuts. i'm sure ashley has a self destruct button and pushes it every time we're on a good run/ got a bit of stability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 In previous windows, it would be appear that despite promises, money hasnt been made readily available due to the debt levels we were carrying. How on earth do you come to this conclusion? We can't have repaid 'debt' because the debt is held by Ashley and as Dekka keeps saying 'Mike hasn't taken a penny out of the club' He has taken money out. He can't just take money out of the club. That's called extortion and is illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Extortion? Wut? Are you thinking of another word, like embezzlement, which it isn't either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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